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    I can't imagine having lots of children and no money would be the sort of life I would choose for myself. But if someone else chooses that life (or ends up there not by choice) then I just hope they can do their best for their children and if so good for them.

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    No, its not fair on the chil, the siblings and the parents. I no mistakes happen (my first daughter was an accident) but there has to come to a point where you use your mind over your heart? I would LOVE another baby, but my husband and I have 6 children between us(3 live with us) and we don't qualify for family assistance as we both work full time. We are lucky to be able to have our own house and live relatively comfortably. If we had another baby we would be on the bones of our bum, which I believe wouldn't be fair to the 3 other children or ourselves
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    What do you mean by welfare?
    FTa, FTb, Austudy, SPP, newstart, rent assistance etc...

    Most families in Australia get some sort of welfare.

    What do you mean by And I don't mean a few children I mean larger then what is considered average in our society families?

    Exactly how many children is OK by 'You'?


    Different families can make their money stretch in different ways and live different lifestyles. So who is to say how many children other people can afford.

    We all know that small families can have crisis that mean they rely more heavily on welfare but that is ok because are small families but one a large family has the exact same situation the are torn to shred and made to feel like they are worse than mud that you scrape of your shoe.

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    I think you have made to very different statements in your post, 1- Is it ok to have kids if you can't afford to feed and house them? and I don't think it is ok, its not fair to have a child if you can't give it the basics. We thought long and hard before deciding to ttc 3, we can afford 3 at the moment but we don't know what will happen down the track. We try very hard to plan for the future and make sure that even if we have hard financial times we will still be ok. However you also ask a very different question which is harder to answer, 2- is it ok to have kids if you can't afford to give them the best? and to this I answer there isn't an answer because every parent has a list of extras they believe their children need and no one gets to judge what they are.
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    Im having my 3rd and final baby as I know we cant afford more Once I would have loved 4

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    Quote Originally Posted by anewme View Post
    What do you mean by welfare?
    FTa, FTb, Austudy, SPP, newstart, rent assistance etc...

    Most families in Australia get some sort of welfare.

    What do you mean by And I don't mean a few children I mean larger then what is considered average in our society families?

    Exactly how many children is OK by 'You'?


    Different families can make their money stretch in different ways and live different lifestyles. So who is to say how many children other people can afford.

    We all know that small families can have crisis that mean they rely more heavily on welfare but that is ok because are small families but one a large family has the exact same situation the are torn to shred and made to feel like they are worse than mud that you scrape of your shoe.
    OP, Further to this - define "provide"?
    Are we talking about food and a roof, or are we talking about extra curicular activities and and every child gets their own bedroom?
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    No it absolutely is not ok.

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    Quote Originally Posted by anewme View Post
    What do you mean by welfare?
    FTa, FTb, Austudy, SPP, newstart, rent assistance etc...

    Most families in Australia get some sort of welfare.

    What do you mean by And I don't mean a few children I mean larger then what is considered average in our society families?

    Exactly how many children is OK by 'You'?
    I have tried extremely hard to write this post in an non-antagonistic , PC , BH friendly, way. Please don't turn try and turn the tone of this thread. We are a family of 5 which is considered large. Please tell me how you wish to write the above statement so no offense is taken and I will edit it.

    ETA: I am not saying a family of 5 is large only that it is larger then the Australian average.
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    Quote Originally Posted by anewme View Post
    What do you mean by welfare?
    FTa, FTb, Austudy, SPP, newstart, rent assistance etc...

    Most families in Australia get some sort of welfare.

    What do you mean by And I don't mean a few children I mean larger then what is considered average in our society families?

    Exactly how many children is OK by 'You'? She didn't say ok by her,she said average in society.


    Different families can make their money stretch in different ways and live different lifestyles. So who is to say how many children other people can afford.

    We all know that small families can have crisis that mean they rely more heavily on welfare but that is ok because are small families but one a large family has the exact same situation the are torn to shred and made to feel like they are worse than mud that you scrape of your shoe.
    I don't see how a family on an average income say of $40000 can afford 10 kids, no matter how good you are at budgeting. Unless I guess if you don't pay rent or a mortgage and food etc. I am not entitled to any welfare in Australia but even if I was I still personally wouldn't want to have 10 children, not only for the financial aspect but the emotional side of things. But everyone is different

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    Me personally if I had to rely on government assistance (main source of income) I would stop having children. It doesn't concern me what other families decide because in the end it is their lives to live.

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