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    I had a really good appointment with my LC and hopefully maybe some of her tips will help you!

    My DD has issues sucking because she just hasn't worked up that muscle tone in her cheeks yet, so while she's sucking she isn't doing to properly and not getting enough milk. So we're now re-teaching her how to suck properly. We're using a finger line and I just express and then dip the line in her bottle and put it in her mouth along with my finger. It's easy to tell when she isn't sucking properly, so I just have to "pinch" her cheeks in until I can feel she's really sucking hard. I'm sure there will be some information online somewhere!

    We also need to do some gentle massage on her cheeks and that area under the ears/cheek that tenses up when stressed, just to try and relax her mouth to make sucking easier.

    Do you have access to a LC? I was dealing with a private one but she was horrible, so my MCHN referred me onto the local council free service one and she is amazing. Very supportive, spent about 1.5hrs with me today checking everything and giving me tips.

    It seems to be a vicious cycle... If they're not getting enough milk/calories they can't feed properly because they don't have enough energy... But they don't have enough energy because they're not feeding properly. It's so hard

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    Anjalee thats awesome advice and I'm thrilled that you're able to get the right help :-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anjalee View Post
    I had a really good appointment with my LC and hopefully maybe some of her tips will help you!

    My DD has issues sucking because she just hasn't worked up that muscle tone in her cheeks yet, so while she's sucking she isn't doing to properly and not getting enough milk. So we're now re-teaching her how to suck properly. We're using a finger line and I just express and then dip the line in her bottle and put it in her mouth along with my finger. It's easy to tell when she isn't sucking properly, so I just have to "pinch" her cheeks in until I can feel she's really sucking hard. I'm sure there will be some information online somewhere!

    We also need to do some gentle massage on her cheeks and that area under the ears/cheek that tenses up when stressed, just to try and relax her mouth to make sucking easier.

    Do you have access to a LC? I was dealing with a private one but she was horrible, so my MCHN referred me onto the local council free service one and she is amazing. Very supportive, spent about 1.5hrs with me today checking everything and giving me tips.

    It seems to be a vicious cycle... If they're not getting enough milk/calories they can't feed properly because they don't have enough energy... But they don't have enough energy because they're not feeding properly. It's so hard
    Thats awesome you had a good appointment today Anjalee Im finger feeding too using a syringe though. Might enquire about a feeding line when I see the middy tomorrow. How do you have it set up? How much are you needing to feed her each feed and how often?

    DS can suck really hard when he wants to, and he often goes to town on my finger, he just isnt getting it on the breast. He either latches on, gives 2 sucks then snuggles up to go to sleep or he keeps trying to attach then once he gets the nipple in his mouth he pushes it out with his tongue. Very frustrating!

    I dont think we have LCs available through local council here but might enquire about the ones through Child Youth Health. Didnt have a good experience with them with DD but will try a different branch this time in the hope of getting someone better!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anjalee View Post
    *hugs* I had a prem bub with jaundice so have faced/am facing many of the same issues as you!

    My DD wasn't gaining weight well (she's only up 250g on her birth weight at 5 weeks) so I am now expressing as she feeds, she's on the right and I pump the left then switch. If she BF only, she doesn't get anywhere near enough. So I let her feed, to encourage supply but also to get that bonding time in. I then give her a "full feed" of EBM (anywhere between 60-100ml). I'm using medela bottles and they don't require much effort so she isn't tiring like she does when she's BFing.

    Do you have access to a pump? I hired a hospital grade one from the ABA which has been a god send! I am also toying with the idea of cosleeping so DD can feed on and off all night... Still unsure though :/

    I'm seeing my LC tomorrow, if I get any more tips I will come back and add.

    Good luck! xx
    Co sleeping is excellent in terms of feeding and supply. Plus she can feed without fully waking up and you will find you will get more sleep too

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    Went to see the middy today to have Caleb weighed. He had dropped from 3350g to 3030g at discharge. Weigh in today showed he has FINALLY put some weight back on - 100g in 2 days which is double what he needed (needs average 25g per day) so that was a relief so we dont have to be re-admitted. His jaundice appears to be clearing too.

    We have been having lots of feeding issues as he is so tired and not latching or sucking well so I've been finger feeding him and offering a b/f as sometimes he will attach and suck. The middy watched me do a feed and said that though he isnt tongue tied, he doesnt yet have the muscle tone/strength in his mouth to bring his tongue forward, or suck very well - hence why he is struggling to latch. So hopefully it is just a matter of time and a bit more strength behind him and development and he will get the hang of it.. So I just have to continue what Im doing for now and fingers crossed the feeds will improve. I have noticed his sucking on my finger has gotten stronger over the last 24 hours which is awesome. They have said basically to treat him like a prem for a couple of weeks - though he is classified as "full term" and a good size at birth, he is still 3 weeks early so he has a sucking reflex but it is weak.

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    I've been there. Read my recent topic in celebrating breast feeding.
    Ask any questions from that.
    But I recommend getting an LC. Helped me so much

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    Thanks so much to everyone who has replied. March2013, I read your thread last night, very honest and inspiring.

    Anjalee - how did u go with the LC?

    We are having some progress. Little man is latching most feeds (except the one in trying to do now Arrgh! Haha ) sometimes he doesn't stay on very long, but I'm finding some feeds he does well. He often latches and forgets to suck though then gets cranky cos theres no milk. His suck is also getting stronger when I finger-feed. He is still very sleepy though but I'm sure he will get stronger in time.

    Question to anyone still following - how long did it take u to do feeds when your little one was newborn? (either just a full bf or bf with comp feed?) I didn't bf for very long with dd due to latching issues so this is all very new to me!

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    Ok not such a good day today.... boobs are massively engorged thanks to his feeding yesterday, and today when I need him to feed so desperately he has decided that latching is over-rated.. He gets so worked up and either takes 2 sucks and pulls of screaming or pushes away from the breast.. that or he takes 2 sucks and falls asleep... I know its not a slow let-down issue as when he comes off there's milk pouring everywhere.... any suggestions?

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    Maybe it's too fast. When engorged it can be hard to attach. Try feeding lying down to slow the flow. Can you express even by hand so it's not so fast?

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    I express a little at the beginning of each feed to soften and make it easier for him to attach, but Im not sure if its just making things worse? He takes so long to latch that my boobs just fill again and I have to pump again. Tried to feed laying down this morning but no luck. Will persevere though. Im not very coordinated at it though, and I struggle to get him on with his poor latching skills sitting up let alone laying down !!!!

    Is there any other ways to slow the flow?
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