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    Been doing some calling around and have found a centre that does include his culture in their program so I've put in a waiting list form for 2 days but I still need to check it out in person.

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    At 2.5 he will find it extremely distressing. I would highly recommend against if you can get away with it. If you have no other choice then you have to do what has to be done. I did this with my 2.5 year old and it didn't last very long as she really wasn't coping.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Renesme View Post
    At 2.5 he will find it extremely distressing. I would highly recommend against if you can get away with it. If you have no other choice then you have to do what has to be done. I did this with my 2.5 year old and it didn't last very long as she really wasn't coping.
    I'm trying to find an alternative, if I can't find a suitable centre for 2 days he can just go 1 day and to the supported playgroup and DOC's will just have to accept it.

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    Thanks for the replies. It has confirmed for me that it's not the best idea.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WiseOldOwl View Post
    He is 2 now, 2.5 when he starts in January. Ideally I would like him in the one centre for the 2 days. I rang them and asked if they have any aboriginal culture in their program and they said they don't. I'm in NSW, maybe it's not compulsory here. I'll ask when I go to playgroup, it's run by child care workers connected to the aboriginal pre-school he'll be going to in 2015, if they know any other centres in the area that include it in their program.
    If this is the case then the center is not meeting national standards and who knows what other areas they are not adequately meeting. I find this shocking. Aboriginal culture is part of Australia's history.

    I have no children of Aboriginal decent in my care and I still teach Aboriginal culture . Apart from it being a national requirement, it's an important part of learning about Australian history and diversity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by beccaboobang View Post
    If this is the case then the center is not meeting national standards and who knows what other areas they are not adequately meeting. I find this shocking. Aboriginal culture is part of Australia's history.

    I have no children of Aboriginal decent in my care and I still teach Aboriginal culture . Apart from it being a national requirement, it's an important part of learning about Australian history and diversity.
    I agree, it doesn't sound right. Their website states

    Play is at the heart of our curriculum it is through play and interactions with others that children explore the world around them, challenge thinking and build upon skills and interests.
    Our curriculum begins with the child’s emerging interests and with educator facilitation, turns into a learning journey that shares and develops their own and others knowledge. The value of children’s play, their work, discoveries, exploration and learning is celebrated in meaning documentation and classroom displays.
    At xxxxxxxxxxx our curriculum is underpinned by the National Quality Framework. We aim to sustain high quality in each quality area and drive continuous improvement and consistency in our education and care service.
    Your child will be engaged in experiences that meet all outcomes in the Early Years Learning Framework.



    I'll certainly be asking more questions before enrolling him. I found the Early Years Learning Framework and if they do adhere to it then why is it not part of the curriculum. Seeing they are a
    Long Day Care Centre which is a not-for-profit Centre with funding from the Department of Family & Community Services.

    You'd think they would be strictly monitored to keep receiving their funding.


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    I know in qld the department is really over worked and understaffed. So many centers aren't being assessed and rated for long periods of time so they are probably getting away with not fulfilling nqf and eylf requirements.

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    Quote Originally Posted by beccaboobang View Post
    I know in qld the department is really over worked and understaffed. So many centers aren't being assessed and rated for long periods of time so they are probably getting away with not fulfilling nqf and eylf requirements.
    Ok so I rang and spoke to the director today and asked about Aboriginal culture in their program and she said they absolutely include it and she puts a big emphasis on identity etc. She also said that they do an individual program for each child so that anything that is important to me to be included is. I can get a copy of this to give to DOCS to satisfy them that he is being exposed to his culture. When I rang and asked before I was told the incorrect info, I only spoke to whoever answered the phone so next time I know to ask to speak to the director. Feeling a bit happier about it now. Going for a walk thru tomorrow before I lodge any enrollment forms though.

    Thanks Beccaboobang, you helped me alot with this. Good to have advise from someone in the industry that knows what to look for. Do you have any advise on what I should be looking for tomorrow at the centre and what questions to ask?

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    Quote Originally Posted by WiseOldOwl View Post
    Ok so I rang and spoke to the director today and asked about Aboriginal culture in their program and she said they absolutely include it and she puts a big emphasis on identity etc. She also said that they do an individual program for each child so that anything that is important to me to be included is. I can get a copy of this to give to DOCS to satisfy them that he is being exposed to his culture. When I rang and asked before I was told the incorrect info, I only spoke to whoever answered the phone so next time I know to ask to speak to the director. Feeling a bit happier about it now. Going for a walk thru tomorrow before I lodge any enrollment forms though.

    Thanks Beccaboobang, you helped me alot with this. Good to have advise from someone in the industry that knows what to look for. Do you have any advise on what I should be looking for tomorrow at the centre and what questions to ask?
    Glad to be of some help, I'm really passionate about my job. Every lead educator sets up and runs their room differently so it depends on what you want to get out of the center. Look for a large variety of resources down at the children's level, how they display their room and the children's artwork. Ask about their routines , daily programs and how to access learning stories/observations.

    If it's your first time enrolling a child in childcare then ask about how they deal with incidents (they should write incident reports if he hurts himself for you to sign when u collect him. Also ask about serious incidents (they should call you if he has any injury to his head). Ask about toileting and the collection/notification about soiled clothes.

    I think the main thing is for your little one to feel safe and comfortable with the educators in the room. Watch how they act with the children . Are they playing with them in a positive manner or are they. "Busy" and brushing children off because they have a chore to do.

    Good luck and let us know how you go sorry for the essay.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WiseOldOwl View Post
    I'm trying to find an alternative, if I can't find a suitable centre for 2 days he can just go 1 day and to the supported playgroup and DOC's will just have to accept it.
    I would say this would be preferable. Surely DOCS would realise that the Aboriginal playgroup plus 1 daycare is better for the child that playgroup+daycare+aboriginal daycare? No support worker in their right mind could fault you for not wanting to do that to a little munchkin.

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