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    Hi Ladies

    I just wanted to pop in here for an update on where we are at and im so glad to see some ladies are still around and also new ladies too! Yayyy!!! We can hopefully share our journey together!

    DF and i have been in the lonnnnggg waiting stages before unfortunately being able to do anything as quickly as we wish we could, due to personal circumstances and then having to sift thru private health companies, and get that going, and we are now almost half way on the 12 month wait for that, so in the meantime i have done a fair bit of reading, phoning around, emailing, getting info posted to us from all over Aussie etc etc since we first started down this road. Too much time on my hands to dwell on this plan haha

    So i will share some of my own personal thoughts on some of the issues with the whole icsi/ivf/or should we do the VR route etc and so on that i have gotten a scrambled brain with.
    Personally a few conclusions i have since come to are, that obviously if i talk to an ivf specialist they will say their product is the better one, or a VR surgeon will say theirs is, that is a given, so i pay no notice to that bit.
    The big thing i think, which is hard, is to allow myself to let it sink in that no matter which way we go VR or IVF/ICSI both have risks of not working unfortunately, both are not 100% going to work.

    On another note that i found rather interesting, I read of a surgeon over in the states who swears that it makes no difference what so ever how many years it has been between the vasectomy and the VR and he has people fly worldwide to him and i believe he invented some other technique, and also uses microscopic instruments.

    I've also found by inquiring extensively that quite a few private operating surgeons, perform VR surgeries, every single week without fail at private hospitals for a fraction of the cost that some others that are widely advertised, so are widely used do. Using the same technique, with high success rates too.

    I highly suggest looking up your local private hospitals and if they are anything like mine you can search their specialist list which has the contact details for their operating surgeons, so you can then contact them directly and find out any info from them. I know i made the mistake at first of not doing this at first as went of the dazzling google adverts and websites.

    We are going VR for a few reasons as ICSI would be more exxy if for eg the 1st time failed, then you have to keep going and we would have no idea of how many more times we would be up for, also DF prefers to try naturally and we would prefer not to add more hormones etc into my system if we can avoid it for now, for just a few things, another one is if we start with it, it can cause damage which if we then go back to try VR, then the VR may not be possible. We aren't worried about antibodies to be honest, considering the other factors that we are up against now, in our way of thinking it is a small risk, compared to what we have at the moment which is no chance lol

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    oh i also wanted to say that i have also read that one of the complications of the VR not working can be blockage/scarring afterwards. And that it can possibly be re opened/unblocked to allow the sperm to flow thru again. Also depending on when you have had the VR or your IVF etc done don't forget to check your Safety net at medicare and that you are all combined under the same family net as you may have already spent over the required amount for the year, (hopefully)
    So costs could be less/more in your back pocket I think it runs Jan To Dec, not the financial Year, but double check that and if you are on the Gold Coast look up Dr Stephen Bourne he operates at John Flynn and runs East Coast Urology for another option

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    Hi all, Not sure if this thread is very active but I'm a newbie here so thought I'd pop in and say hello! Monroe78-we were in the same boat with which way to go...Well we decided on VR and my fiancé is in the operating theatre as we speak! We went through a private urologist/hospital and our out of pocket expenses are about $4200.Fingers crossed it all goes to plan, good luck to you all whatever you decide on
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    Oh wow!!! How exciting for you both! I hope the operation goes well and the recovery period is smooth for you both! Please let us know how you get on

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    Thanks! The surgery went well but I suppose we will find out in approx 4 weeks at our appt with the urologist! DF is doing so well, NO pain so far and we're 24hrs post surgery woohoo! Hoping it stays that way for him lol!

    Have you got a date set Monroe?

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    Any updates on this thread? We are in the process of looking at VR and/or IVF. I need something to hope for, would love to hear what happened with your journey.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ashyfrances View Post
    Any updates on this thread? We are in the process of looking at VR and/or IVF. I need something to hope for, would love to hear what happened with your journey.
    Hi! We are about 6 weeks post op now, had our appt with the urologist last week and he is really happy with the recovery and the joins feel secure, we don't do our first sperm analysis until 10 weeks post op though so we still don't know if we have swimmers or not? Will definitely post the outcome here once we know! While we don't know if it's successful yet, we have started ttc this month so I am probably about 2-3dpo now, won't do any testing (other than clear blue digital ovulation test) but will just see what happens. Even if reversal was successful it would be highly unlikely to fall pregnant so soon, but we have to start sometime so why not now 😊 if it comes back unsuccessful we will get straight onto fertility clinics and look at our options.

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    Default Vasectomy Reversal OR ICSI/IVF? Not sure which way to go!

    I wish I had seen this thread earlier. To be honest I still don't know what's better BUT I wish I had of gone ICSI straight away. We went to Metrocentre on the GC for a VR in Sep 2013. We had great numbers for nine months but low motility (98% abnormal, which the doc withheld and just said numbers to give us hope). Well here we are nearly a year and a half later and I'm in the middle of our first ICSI cycle as DH tubes are scaring over - yes they can be unblocked - what they don't tell you is that is having the op again! So 10k down with only 1700 back and no pregnancy and still doing IVF and we won't know until Wednesday (EPU) if there's even any sperm left to get.

    What they also don't tell you is its a process, they don't expect numbers until 12 months! They also mostly start scarring over at this time. So months of healing and if you're lucky maybe get a pregnancy, I'm 16 months out and not even pregnant and just starting ivf. Had I have done IVF from the start, we may very well have our baby now. I chose the VR because I thought it was better value for money thinking it was a permanent solution (if we wanted another). If I could choose again, I would do IVF. The only way we are better off is that DH may be able to normally provide his sperm for fertilisation, but we will find out Wednesday, he may have to do the retrival anyway. We are close to 20k now, 16months, and no BFP

    But not everyone will be like us, I have heard many success stories, and just as many fails. Funny thing is, I'm 26, never did I think we would be in the fail basket as I'm fertile. (Call me stupid but I thought it would be the men whose wives were 40 and would have struggled anyway). Another girl I met through this journey, is 27 and it's been over 2 years and theirs hasn't worked either.

    I wish you all the best on your journeys and hope you are in the successful percentage xx
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    Hi ladies - @StillHopeful
    I'm in same boat word for word except were 26 months past VR at the Gold Coast - great numbers but low motility ! No bfp ....
    Wondeeing if my dh has scaring to block tubes ... Hmmmmmmm
    he wanted us to come in for scan but dh wanted to wait abit longer !
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    Hi Felicia,

    I'm sorry to hear you are on this crappy journey also. While I feel Dr Lekich is the best at what he does, I still feel manipulated into that option. We went to a FS at 12months post VR as he had me convinced it was me. They took one look at my scans and cycles and I also requested copies of the SAs from Metrocentre and they looked at them too and straight away and said its not me.
    They did their own SA and it came back at 3mil with 98% abnormal.

    Even worse than our 3 month post op of 5milion per ml

    6 month post op 65mil per mil!!! (But no Olympians).

    9months post op 25mil

    Then the 3 mil from FS at approx 13 months post op.

    I also hear a lot of people getting pregnant 6 months out, but then try for number 2 and they've closed up.

    I almost cry when I hear of people having vasectomies these days. Knowing what they may go through should they change their mind!!

    Are you starting IVF also?
    I'm praying we still have some swimmers coming through on Wednesday, as it's been a couple months now since the 3mil test.


 

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