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I'm sorry but your continued denial of the obviously sexist treatment of the first female PM is getting laughable. Why can't you accept that it happened?
I don't support gender based slurs towards anyone but I don't think calling Abbott a ******** is necessarily gender based- it's a fairly common term in Australian slang and I've heard it applied to both men and women. And the sign saying Resign, Di!!head? Written by and carried by a man. That's just one example. He's not being vilified, mocked or harassed for being male. People don't like what he's doing to the country. Do I agree with how they express their opposition? Not always, no.
To answer your other question, it's never ok to vilify anyone, but it's certainly ok to disagree with them and what they stand for.
Now, as a separate issue, one could wish for a more elevated tone of political discourse from all sides of politics . But that's a separate question from sexism and racism, which are not about a vulgar tone but concern fundamental issues of prejudice and unequal treatment.
In contrast, Abbott had been regularly the subject of sexist type remarks due to his wearing of speedos long before he became PM. He has had to stop being himself (not wearing them anymore) due to the repeated harassment. Was that acceptable? Would criticism of Gillard's bathing attire have been acceptable whilst she was an MP prior to her becoming PM? Or would have that been sexist?
Regardless of whether you think calling someone a ******** is sexist, drawing male genitalia on a man's head is definitely sexist, and it's depicting the same thing.
You are right Busy Bee - I wasn't at the march - I don't partake in such things (for many reasons - I don't agree with hatred protests, I prefer to do my political debates via the pen than by surrounding myself with others of similar disposition. I believe my method of contact local politicians is more likely to achieve going about getting change, also because my weekends are for my family and contrary to how some people acted (I've mentioned getting a toddler carrying a sign saying "toddlers against tony") its not the way I want to bring up my children - where they have no idea about what they are protesting about. I'd rather fight my political battles with politics rather than emotion.
However, I still stand by the fact that regardless of the nazi insignias etc, there were a lot more signs depicted in any pictorials I saw which were defamatory in any of the photos I saw. Obviously, I didn't see all of the signs and they are easy pickings over people who didn't carry signs.
I stand by the fact that defamatory signs calling people names etc, is a form of abuse and therefore in my book rules all of the people who thought to carry them out as being part of a civilised protest.
ETA: I'm sure there was more that I was to respond to, but I'm not going back to previous pages now. I do stand by my previous posts and the fact that any emotionally based rally which is there to incite hatred (or unite people in hatred) is not useful nor something I want to be part of.
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