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    Quote Originally Posted by Father View Post
    In this case there would be no law to hide behind. The only people in this case that are 'hiding behind' a law is those that cannot argue with reason against comments that they do not like.



    That sentence doesn't make sense.
    Are you saying that people do not have a right to 'speak with hate'? If that were the case, then this thread would be shut down as it has been dedicated to hate speak about Abbott.
    I don't believe Abbott is a racial group.

    This thread is an excellent example of free speech. Here we are debating politics without anyone making threats toward the subject (other than voting his @rse out come next election ) or each other.

    Why do you want people to have the right to racially vilify others?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SpecialPatrolGroup View Post
    I don't believe Abbott is a racial group.
    So you can say whatever you like about him regardless of how much it may offend or humiliate him?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SpecialPatrolGroup View Post
    Why do you want people to have the right to racially vilify others?
    Can you please define vilify for me?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Father View Post
    So you can say whatever you like about him regardless of how much it may offend or humiliate him?
    Yes, providing you can substantiate it and it does not breech laws governing discrimination.

    To be offended is not a reason to stop discourse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Father View Post
    Can you please define vilify for me?
    Why? Your google broken?

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    speak or write about in an abusively disparaging manner.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Father View Post
    Are saying that Andrew Bolt did not fit into any of those exemption categories? Why is was his opinion on Aboriginal entitlements deemed illegal.
    The judge's summary of the case says the court has "not been satisfied that the offensive conduct that I have found occurred, is exempted from unlawfulness by section 18D. The reasons for that conclusion have to do with the manner in which the articles were written, including that they contained errors of fact, distortions of the truth and inflammatory and provocative language." (emphasis added)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Busy-Bee View Post
    Yes, providing you can substantiate it and it does not breech laws governing discrimination.

    To be offended is not a reason to stop discourse.

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    I agree with Steven Fry's comment.

    Is hate speech ok if it discriminates against women or gays? Is there a law for that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SpecialPatrolGroup View Post
    Why do you want people to have the right to racially vilify others?
    According to the definition that you provided, I would not want people to have that right. Are you saying that Bolt was 'abusively disparaging'? Can you give an example of comment of his that deserves that description?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnC View Post
    The reasons for that conclusion have to do with the manner in which the articles were written, including that they contained errors of fact, distortions of the truth and inflammatory and provocative language." (emphasis added)
    Manner?

    Errors of fact is relevant to defamation. Do you know what the errors were? Do you have examples of inflammatory/provocative language that he used?


 

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