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    It is a good question Father, one I need to think about for a while though - so I will get back to you.

    But just quickly - you say that the rate of refugee immigration was unsustainable. How so? Have you any evidence that shows this? 20587 hardly seems like a huge amount, when you take into consideration that 309582 babies where born in 2012 here.

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    2013 was the peak year, with 20587 arriving. I guess you should have looked a bit harder.
    https://www.refugeecouncil.org.au/r/stat-as.php

    Not short of the 20k at all.

    The rate of increase has been marked since 2009. That rate of increase was unsustainable without there being a change in policy.

    Beebs, you are still unable to answer the issue as to what you do with those who arrive over the cap. How is putting these people in community housing sustainable? What housing would you use? How long would they be there for?

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    Quote Originally Posted by beebs View Post
    It is a good question Father, one I need to think about for a while though - so I will get back to you.

    But just quickly - you say that the rate of refugee immigration was unsustainable. How so? Have you any evidence that shows this? 20587 hardly seems like a huge amount, when you take into consideration that 309582 babies where born in 2012 here.
    Especially since Australia's population (without migration) and birth rate is declining.
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    Quote Originally Posted by beebs View Post
    It is a good question Father, one I need to think about for a while though - so I will get back to you.

    But just quickly - you say that the rate of refugee immigration was unsustainable. How so? .
    I'm not taking sides here but perhaps father meant the government budget is going up the crapper and most asylum seekers require substantial support in the first few years? (In detention and out).

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    Quote Originally Posted by VicPark View Post
    I'm not taking sides here but perhaps father meant the government budget is going up the crapper and most asylum seekers require substantial support in the first few years? (In detention and out).
    Partly, but I was meaning the rate of increase was unsustainable. Labor upped the cap to 20k, but the arrivals in 2013 still overcome that number. They went from 4565 in 2011, to 20587 in 2013. That is a massive increase in such a short time. It is an amazing turnaround in numbers since the election. Once the detention centre numbers start declining, I hope that we can resume taking in refugees from camps around the world.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigRedV View Post
    And Newspoll said it went 2% in the other direction. You have a few more years worth of poll watching BRV ahead of you. But if it puts a smile on your face and keeps you interested in politics then that is a good thing.

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    Have you got any evdience that number was not sustainable?

    Quote Originally Posted by Father View Post
    Partly, but I was meaning the rate of increase was unsustainable. Labor upped the cap to 20k, but the arrivals in 2013 still overcome that number. They went from 4565 in 2011, to 20587 in 2013. That is a massive increase in such a short time. It is an amazing turnaround in numbers since the election. Once the detention centre numbers start declining, I hope that we can resume taking in refugees from camps around the world.


 

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