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    Even tony abbott is calling the manus island facility a camp. Very telling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigRedV View Post
    Even tony abbott is calling the manus island facility a camp. Very telling.

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    I don't see the problem calling it a camp? What is the problem? Aren't their asylum seeker camps all over the world?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigRedV View Post
    Even tony abbott is calling the manus island facility a camp. Very telling.
    Yeah, given they see this as a "war", then Manus can legitimately be seen as a kind of POW camp.

    No one can complain that the then Abbott opposition did not fully flag their intentions and approach in the run-up to the election, and that's what people voted for.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Father View Post
    I predict another 11 years of complaining about the current conservative government, followed by a few years of rigid defence of the next incompetent Labor/Green alliance. That should get us to about 2029.
    I wouldn't be so sure, Father . Expect a serious case of "buyer's regret" at the next election.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnC View Post
    I wouldn't be so sure, Father . Expect a serious case of "buyer's regret" at the next election.
    Abbott will do one term. And I find it interesting when people say Abbott gets blamed for everything - considering that is the constant tactics of the LP. Everything is from the ALP, they have became the scapegoat. As a rampant leftie I didn't support everything the previous govt did. But geez. I feel like the Abbott govt is in the playground with "I know you are but what am I?". Are these people adults or a bunch of man-children (and women) that think the public is stupid enough to swallow this tripe?

    I know you aren't a leftie It's just super frustrating how blind so many seem to be to the pretty overt childish tactics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by delirium View Post
    Abbott will do one term.
    I wouldn't want to play Nostradamus on this. It depends on a number of factors.

    Politically: Can Abbott keep the mad dogs like Cory Bernadi in their kennels? Can Shorten craft a credible alternative policy package?

    Economically: Abbott doesn't have the Magic Pudding that Howard-Costello used to feed the greed of middle-class voters. So how are they going to sweeten the many bitter pills that Hockey and others are preparing to prescribe?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Father View Post

    And let me get this right: Abbott is a 'knob' because Terry Barnes has raised a suggestion Like I've said: It's always Abbott's fault.
    No... There's plenty of other reasons why he is a knob.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnC View Post
    I wouldn't want to play Nostradamus on this. It depends on a number of factors.

    Politically: Can Abbott keep the mad dogs like Cory Bernadi in their kennels? Can Shorten craft a credible alternative policy package?

    Economically: Abbott doesn't have the Magic Pudding that Howard-Costello used to feed the greed of middle-class voters. So how are they going to sweeten the many bitter pills that Hockey and others are preparing to prescribe?
    My God. I think I just agreed with everything you said. I think they appeal to the extremely conservative voters who like to see the poor get nothing bc they are just lazy sods living off welfare, the dirty job stealing boat people sent back, and homosexuals without the right to marry. In short, the pay off is more of a philosophical, belief based pay off, rather than a tangible one.

    And for the record, Howard, who I never liked, was a far better leader in every respect than Abbott.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VicPark View Post
    No... There's plenty of other reasons why he is a knob.
    *snort*

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