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    Quote Originally Posted by TheMadHatter View Post
    Okay....please don't tell me you're naive enough to think Indonesia will look after them and will not send them back!
    There are plenty of countries to choose from. Why were they in Indonesia in the first place?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Father View Post
    Then what would you do with them?
    If you would keep them, then 20k is not your number. What is your new number?
    Yours is a moot point since we haven't had that many arrivals in a year.

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    I just can't get over Abbott's (or, his advisors) stupidity, annoying Indonesia the way he is. First there was the phone tapping saga, now this! Indonesia is one country that strategically we NEED to be trying to keep good relations with. I just can't believe it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigRedV View Post
    Yours is a moot point since we haven't had that many arrivals in a year.
    We haven't under the policies that were in place. However, BigRedV's policies would most likely increase that number. So it is definitely not a moot point.

    At what number would BigRedV say "I think that is enough for this year, we can't look after you all". Please don't ignore the question. It is legitimate to know how many you think we can take.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheMadHatter View Post
    I just can't get over Abbott's (or, his advisors) stupidity, annoying Indonesia the way he is. First there was the phone tapping saga, now this! Indonesia is one country that strategically we NEED to be trying to keep good relations with. I just can't believe it!
    Who was responsible for the phone tapping??? I'll give you a chance to answer first but I'll give you a hint..... it wasn't Abbott

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    Quote Originally Posted by Father View Post
    There are plenty of countries to choose from. Why were they in Indonesia in the first place?

    Have a look at your map. Indonesia is easy to travel to overland via train, domestic flights, short boat trips, buses, border crossings at unattended borders etc. Australia is not. Indonesia is the closest SE Asian point to Australia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheMadHatter View Post
    I just can't get over Abbott's (or, his advisors) stupidity, annoying Indonesia the way he is. First there was the phone tapping saga, now this! Indonesia is one country that strategically we NEED to be trying to keep good relations with. I just can't believe it!
    BTW, Indonesia is being quite cooperative, despite the media's best attempt at painting a hostile picture. They have been taking back the boats. They have been increasing patrols. I guess you can't believe it because it isn't true.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheMadHatter View Post
    Have a look at your map. Indonesia is easy to travel to overland via train, domestic flights, short boat trips, buses, border crossings at unattended borders etc.
    Sorry. Maybe you should have a look at a map of Indonesia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Father View Post
    Who was responsible for the phone tapping??? I'll give you a chance to answer first but I'll give you a hint..... it wasn't Abbott
    True. But, all he had to do was apologise immediately, say it was under a previous government and he had no knowledge of it. I reckon the Indonesians would've been happy with that. Wouldn't have been that hard to say that and keep good relations. Sure, it might not have been his fault but, if he wants to be the elected representative of this country then this is part of his job.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheMadHatter View Post
    Have a look at your map. Indonesia is easy to travel to overland via train, domestic flights, short boat trips, buses, border crossings at unattended borders etc. Australia is not. Indonesia is the closest SE Asian point to Australia.
    And while you are having another look at the map, can you please tell me why those from the middle east and Africa are traveling to Indonesia?


 

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