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    It doesn't look good for the Pacific Island nations at 1 mtr. But don't worry about them, if we don't think about them, then it's almost like they don't exist.

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    Tsk, tsk Father, look who is playing games now?

    But I understand why you do it, it isn't like you have either fact or science to back you up, so you have to lower yourself to twisting peoples words, you think it is pretty clever don't you. But you aren't, my 13 year old niece plays that game as well.


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    But I'm glad that you think that they may be wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by beebs View Post
    It doesn't look good for the Pacific Island nations at 1 mtr. But don't worry about them, if we don't think about them, then it's almost like they don't exist.
    Which ones? I'll have a look. Some of them are actually growing, but I doubt that map would take that into account.

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    Dr. Roy Spencer might be on to something regarding the 95% confidence figure from the IPCC.

    http://www.drroyspencer.com/2013/10/...ect-after-all/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Father View Post
    Dr. Roy Spencer might be on to something regarding the 95% confidence figure from the IPCC.

    http://www.drroyspencer.com/2013/10/...ect-after-all/
    As in, well known creationist, Roy Spencer?

    Quote from his wiki entry-
    Spencer is a signatory to An Evangelical Declaration on Global Warming,[24][25] which states that "Earth and its ecosystems – created by God's intelligent design and infinite power and sustained by His faithful providence – are robust, resilient, self-regulating, and self-correcting".[26] He believes that most climate change is natural in origin, the result of long-term changes in the Earth's albedo and that anthropogenic greenhouse gas emissions have caused some warming, but that its warming influence is small compared to natural, internal, chaotic fluctuations in global average cloud cover.[27]
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atropos View Post
    As in, well known creationist, Roy Spencer?

    Quote from his wiki entry-
    Spencer is a signatory to An Evangelical Declaration on Global Warming,[24][25] which states that "Earth and its ecosystems – created by God's intelligent design and infinite power and sustained by His faithful providence – are robust, resilient, self-regulating, and self-correcting".[26] He believes that most climate change is natural in origin, the result of long-term changes in the Earth's albedo and that anthropogenic greenhouse gas emissions have caused some warming, but that its warming influence is small compared to natural, internal, chaotic fluctuations in global average cloud cover.[27]
    You could also go to his bio to find out who he is. A met man with a PhD. Senior NASA scientist and NASA award winner. But never mind that - he believes in God!!!! What a nutcase. Can't believe that NASA would employ someone who believes in God!

    Is that the only thing you thought relevant to Dr Spencer's credentials?
    What do you mean by 'well-known'?
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    Good news for environmentalists in Yorkshire. They have their landscape back.
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2461999/Yorkshire-Dales-wind-farm-Britain-torn-down.html

    Looks much more natural now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Father View Post
    You could also go to his bio to find out who he is. A met man with a PhD. Senior NASA scientist and NASA award winner. But never mind that - he believes in God!!!! What a nutcase. Can't believe that NASA would employ someone who believes in God!

    Is that the only thing you thought relevant to Dr Spencer's credentials?
    What do you mean by 'well-known'?
    Believing in god does not make one a creationist. I know many people who believe in god yet aren't creationists. Do you not understand the difference? Or is evolution another widely accepted scientific theory that you don't believe in??

    Well known means exactly that. He is very well known for his controversial stance on creation vs evolution. I'm not sure what you don't understand there.
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    Roy is pretty funny, check out these quotes:
    http://www.skepticalscience.com/skeptic_Roy_Spencer.htm

    My personal fave-
    Roy:
    "It is a little known fact that the extra carbon dioxide (and methane, an especially potent greenhouse gas) emitted by joggers accounts for close to 10% of the current Global Warming problem."
    Science says:
    By breathing out, we are simply returning to the air the same CO2 that was there to begin with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Atropos View Post
    Believing in god does not make one a creationist. I know many people who believe in god yet aren't creationists. Do you not understand the difference? Or is evolution another widely accepted scientific theory that you don't believe in??

    Well known means exactly that. He is very well known for his controversial stance on creation vs evolution. I'm not sure what you don't understand there.
    I would hardly say 'well known'. I have followed him for quite some time and have not heard him mention his Biblical beliefs once. It seems the first thing you do when an opinion is stated is go straight to google and talk about something else as an ad hom attack.

    So, the relevance of this to climate change is? Would NASA employ someone in such a high position that they did not feel was appropriately qualified?


 

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