Beebs, there have been many studies which show that if money was taken out of the private sector and put into the public sector (schools), many could not afford to pay and therefore there would be an influx of students onto the public system greater than the amount of funding. That argument is flawed, I checked it last week with the industrial action happening in WA schools.
I work in both private and public health and have to say, much as free health for everyone sounds great, the reality for me is what type of service can be delivered to achieve that.
The money has to come from somewhere.
I really have to look further into Sweden, Finland etc as these countries have been held up time and again as utopian with their health, education, parental leave etc.
Rather off topic but Scandinavia and Finland are not utopia - look at their suicide rates. Most likely due to the weather!
Ok, no need to be so patronising.
You obviously aren't understanding what I am saying at all. It isn't about robbing universities (what a strange and may I say, emotionally charged way to describe it), it is about the payments coming from somewhere else, that would be the government via taxes. Interestingly- universities are doing it really tough in places like the US where it is pay as you go, and not so tough in places where they are fully government funded.
I will never subscribe to the ideal that health and education are treated as commodity, I believe it should be a basic human right and as such - should be free. But of course, not really free - paid for out of taxes.
You are only as strong as your weakest link, and that goes for Countries, America is a prime example.
On a totally unrelated note - I can't wait for JG's memoir to come out!! Very glad she is writing it!!
Sorry, but as the OP I give myself the right to go off topic
The area my DD wants to study is no longer funded. Not because it's not relevant, it's highly relevant, but because the funding went to other areas.
Considering sal sac is very common these days, it dies effect how much HELP/HECS and FSS you repay. You should get financial advice re. Sal sac.
From what you have stated as your philosophy I really can't understand why you have a problem with our system. The debt is treated exactly like a tax until it is paid off; the more you earn the more you pay (with low income earners not paying anything). Would you be more accepting of it if they called the fee a tax and then gave exemptions for people who didn't have a university education?
Anyway, we're really just going around in circles so I guess we'll have to agree to disagree.
ETA. My post was a reply to Beebs. i should have quoted, sorry.
Last edited by Meg2; 25-09-2013 at 17:24.
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