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    Quote Originally Posted by BigRedV View Post
    I'm on mat leave this year but last year I had year 3. I had kids who don't have books at home. Not even one. But yep, they have the same opportunity as everyone else...right!
    It's heartbreaking and I so admire people who have come from such a disadvantaged position and have gone on to succeed, but just because some have doesn't mean all can/will.

    My DD is a year two in a two/three split and DS1 is in pre-primary and just by being a helper doing daily reading, lunch mum and maths games, my eyes have been opened. There's a child in DS1's class who gets nothing for lunch and she has a full mouth of rotten teeth.

    I compare that to my two, who have been read to every night of their lives, they are loved, encouraged and supported and they're thriving.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sonja View Post
    Well this thread has gone completely off topic but my 2 cents worth.

    No we don't have equal opportunity in this country but unless someone on here has actually lived in a country where it exists I don't know that it completely does. I used to have this debate with people much smarter than me years ago and the difficulty is someone has to do the jobs that no one else wants to do. Clean the toilets, deliver the mail, empty the sanitary bins in shopping centres, clean office towers at dreadful times of the night. I knew someone who did this and they loved it. No distractions, no one around. Just a few people on head phones quietly cleaning an empty building. Not everyone wants to go to uni. It's actually surprising how few do (in the scheme of things).

    It would be wonderful to live in a world where everyone got to do what they actually wanted to do for a living, but we don't. People point to Scandanavian countries but I've never lived in one and I'm sure there are negatives (the music seems awful for one).
    I don't live in one, but my cousin does. He is a bit of a lefty like myself, and he has moved Norway, and loves it. He tells us that there is nothing like it.

    Yes people still do those jobs, and not everyone gets exactly the same amount of money, but things are far more equitable. The social supports are there for everyone, no one begrudges it (not one he knows any way). He said that they look at it as an embarrassment for their country to leave people behind.

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    @Sonja I agree with what you're saying, but we should at least admit that not everyone gets equal opportunities!

    Oh and there are downsides to Scandinavia. My cousin has just moved home from Sweden and agreed with me that many Scandinavians are incredibly insular and don't cope when their homogenous utopian bubble is infiltrated. I also don't think the sort of socialist leftie feel good policies that work so well in Scandinavia would have a chance in Australia. Australians are too questioning of authority, too happy to turn a blind eye to anti social behaviour. especially things like fare evasion and cheeky tax evasions- that stuff would be heavily frowned upon in Scandinavia whereas here it's sort of seen as fair game.

    And now we are way way waaay off track!

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    Ok staying completely off topic, what's with all the "@ insert name of member" suddenly appearing? I feel so behind!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sonja View Post
    Ok staying completely off topic, what's with all the "@ insert name of member" suddenly appearing? I feel so behind!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sonja View Post
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    I believe you can be tagged so an email alerts you to a post...

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    Quote Originally Posted by VicPark View Post
    Read my previous post. My school was a povvo public school and yeah text books were crappy but I still had the opportunity to improve my life .. It just took hard work and getting over the fact that my second hand textbooks had writing all over them (usually Sally hearts Tom etc..)
    My children attend a school classed as low socio-economic status, and I'm also training to be a teacher. What I have found is the school and teachers do everything in their power to level the playing field. They attend Reading Recovery training to help children who are struggling with reading. They buy copious amounts of supplies to try and make lessons like art fun and interactive. They tailor their lessons to include diverse learners like those whose primary language isn't english. They try to involve parents and get them excited about their child's education.

    But they can only do so much with the funds the school has. When children from a private school or a public of high income come to school with full bellies, nutritious lunches to keep their attention, their parents donate plenty to fund raising so the school can buy better books/subsidise excusions, they pay for private tutors.... then you compare that against a family who don't give their kids breakfast and a whole day of food consists of a packet of chips. The parents can't afford to donate to fundraising. They can't afford voluntary fees. They don't read to their kids nor place an emphasis on learning since their parents didn't..... do you really think children in these 2 examples are on an equal footing to get the best education?


 

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