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    Quote Originally Posted by beebs View Post
    I agree, look - Peg - I know you are a Libs supporter, but it doesn't mean that you can't look deeper into their issues. I look deeper into my parties issues all the time and find fault.

    I really don't think that this can be explained away like that - especially as the other parties don't seem to be affected.
    I certainly look deeper into issues. I don't agree with all that the liberal party does - I question everything. Currently I'm questioning a lot regarding the public school cuts in WA (sanctioned by a Liberal government). (If you're on a local chat page with me on FB, you'll see that )

    Regarding explaining away the "boys club stuff", I wish I had a transcript of Helen Morten's talk at our annual Association breakfast. There's no secret of my quaifications (Helen Moreton (current WA minister for Mental Health, disability and child protection) has the same and came to talk to our association members at our annual breakfast). At that talk, she talked about the "boys club" and how she had to hire a stylist from that time on. I wonder how many men hire stylists as soon as they get elected.

    I hold Helen Moreton in extreme favour due to her vigilance in her fight against the "boys club"

    Quote Originally Posted by Busy-Bee View Post

    I have no idea what this is supposed to mean.

    I'll concede that I'm making an assumption but politics is a grubby business and people get their positions not purely based on talent and experience. Right now we have a PM who is unable to do unscripted interviews because the risk is too high that he will put his foot in his mouth. How did he end up as leader of the Lib party?

    Another example, and I'll use the ALP for this one, when Peter Garrett was elected he had no previous experience but was given a cabinet position. I would suspect that's because he told the ALP that if they wanted him to run for office and if he won he wanted a cabinet position. His profile would have given him the leverage to do that.
    I also wondered about Nova Peris Kneebone going up for senate when she did.

    Politics is such a dirty business.

    I know some of you will debate this, but the influx of female ministers (from 3 to 7 - I think) when Kevin Rudd took over the leadership of the labor party again this year, made me suspicious that women were put into the ministery to appease those that opposed Abbott on the grounds that he was/is against women.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VicPark View Post
    CCR is capped at just over $7,500 per kid I think. If you work full time the rebate runs out about 3/4 of the way through the year... And you have to pay full price (for me $1,000 per fortnight).
    I work three days a week and the cap runs out about 3/4 way through

    It really needs to be looked at as it hasn't increased even with CPI in years. My centre is $120 a day.

    Three days a week costs $18k so I pay $11.5k. I'm about to go to 4 days and will basically get no rebate for that day. 4 days will cost $24k so I will have to pay $16.5k out of post tax salary. Waahhh!

    @Lili81 I think you are inner Melbourne too, and that cost per day is pretty standard.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kw123 View Post
    I work three days a week and the cap runs out about 3/4 way through

    It really needs to be looked at as it hasn't increased even with CPI in years. My centre is $120 a day.

    Three days a week costs $18k so I pay $11.5k. I'm about to go to 4 days and will basically get no rebate for that day. 4 days will cost $24k so I will have to pay $16.5k out of post tax salary. Waahhh!

    @Lili81 I think you are inner Melbourne too, and that cost per day is pretty standard.
    This is a bit OT but I always wonder why they don't fund child care centres directly, rather than give rebates. Sort of like public schools - the centre could still charge a nominal fee, but it wouldn't be so prohibitively expensive.

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    The cost of childcare is crazy.

    You know that the cost of the PPL TA is promoting would be nearly enough to cover for free childcare services for everyone? I know what I would chose between 6 months full salary PL and free childcare...

    I just found a spot for my baby in childcare, it's going to cost me $400 a week FT, so that's 13k net a year after CCB. Inner Melb. @kw123 I didn't know I was so lucky price wise!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lili81 View Post
    The cost of childcare is crazy.

    You know that the cost of the PPL TA is promoting would be nearly enough to cover for free childcare services for everyone? I know what I would chose between 6 months full salary PL and free childcare...

    I just found a spot for my baby in childcare, it's going to cost me $400 a week FT, so that's 13k net a year after CCB. Inner Melb. @<a href="http://www.bubhub.com.au/community/forums/member.php?u=87248" target="_blank">kw123</a> I didn't know I was so lucky price wise!!! <img src="images/smilies/freakingout.gif" border="0" alt="" title="freakingout" smilieid="159" class="inlineimg"
    Great news @Lili81! Where is it located?

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    Just in respect to the CCR cap. I don't think it needs to be lifted. I'd rather the money go to the sick and disadvantaged.

    I pay $70 per child per day so $140/day. We CHOSE to buy in outer bris knowing daycare and housing is cheaper and more affordable. I currently work 3 days a week and am under the $7500 cap so it works out ok. We don't get our rebate till tax time so fortnightly I'm out 50% of my wage.

    I think that if ppl chose to enrol their kids in inner city daycares then it will be expensive (supply/demand) and that's a penalty. Yes it would have been nicer and much more exciting for us to live in the inner city but that's a lifestyle choice. Why should the govt pay for a lifestyle choice?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rose&Aurelia View Post
    Just in respect to the CCR cap. I don't think it needs to be lifted. I'd rather the money go to the sick and disadvantaged.

    I pay $70 per child per day so $140/day. We CHOSE to buy in outer bris knowing daycare and housing is cheaper and more affordable. I currently work 3 days a week and am under the $7500 cap so it works out ok. We don't get our rebate till tax time so fortnightly I'm out 50% of my wage.

    I think that if ppl chose to enrol their kids in inner city daycares then it will be expensive (supply/demand) and that's a penalty. Yes it would have been nicer and much more exciting for us to live in the inner city but that's a lifestyle choice. Why should the govt pay for a lifestyle choice?

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    There are all sorts of reasons people live inner city that have nothing to do with lifestyle choice. Just because it was a choice for you doesn't make it so for everyone.
    In any case the point is not so much the daily rate but rather that once you go past 3 days of care a week you are out of pocket. Again, for some working FT is a choice, others not so much.
    The whole point of CCR is to make it affordable for women to go back to work. It is not about welfare for the middle classes, it is about having more people working more and paying more tax. It falls short of its aim.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rose&amp;Aurelia View Post
    Just in respect to the CCR cap. I don't think it needs to be lifted. I'd rather the money go to the sick and disadvantaged.

    I pay $70 per child per day so $140/day. We CHOSE to buy in outer bris knowing daycare and housing is cheaper and more affordable. I currently work 3 days a week and am under the $7500 cap so it works out ok. We don't get our rebate till tax time so fortnightly I'm out 50% of my wage.

    I think that if ppl chose to enrol their kids in inner city daycares then it will be expensive (supply/demand) and that's a penalty. Yes it would have been nicer and much more exciting for us to live in the inner city but that's a lifestyle choice. Why should the govt pay for a lifestyle choice?

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    Why should the Govt pay for a lifestyle choice? I am very surprised to hear you of all people say that, when you absolutely believe the the Govt should fund parents decisions to not work in order to raise children. Which is also a "lifestyle choice". Or do you just not think the Govt should fund choices that don't apply to you?

    And what do you mean when you say lifestyle choice anyway? Not all of us who live inner city do so purely for the lattes and the almond croissants (although a lovely perk I admit).

    And what happens if everyone moves to the burbs? Vast empty urban spaces and overpopulated outer suburbs? Nice. Some people have to live inner city. And as for it being nicer and more exciting, I don't really see how. I think you're viewing inner city with rose tinted glasses a little.


 

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