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    We know Tony Abbot is a pig we know. But now I think the media are just causing drama thats not there. They're just constantly trying to trip him up on things and sometimes ... It's just not there.

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    But "merit" isn't the only factor at play here at ALL. There are many other rules that ensure proper representation:

    There's state of origin, which dictates you cannot have a dramatic over-representation of ministers from one state, and say, none from another. It is negotiable, but only to a point.

    There's the bi-cameral rule between the House of Representatives and Senate. It dictates there must not be too great an imbalance of ministers drawn from the respective houses.

    Then comes party - at least when the Coalition is in town. The Nats have a right to a certain proportion of ministers - three in cabinet, and two more in the outer-ministry. There are also factional considerations to weigh, such as ensuring the Right or Left don't wind up with everything, or conversely, get completely dudded.

    And, there's the simple edge Abbott's frontbenchers enjoy for having been elevated already.

    Before the election, Abbott promised voters (who, incidentally, could not have cared less) that as much as possible, he would keep all his shadows in place. The pledge not only ignored the under-performance of some, but denied the new government access to any new or returning talent.

    It was sold as proof of stability and continuity, but its real purpose was to keep the Coalition peloton tight and worked a treat.

    But it ran contrary to merit.

    It says much about the internal politics of the governing party that the leader feels he must override the merit argument to make some appointments, but for women, it becomes a barrier.
    Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politi...#ixzz2f6UxA6ka

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    Why is it always the same people who don't believe in climate change, don't believe there are gender imbalances, don't think that Indigenous Australians do it tough and don't believe that we should be accepting refugees. What is that all about?

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    Default Only one female in Tony Abbott's cabinet

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    Why is it always the same people who don't believe in climate change, don't believe there are gender imbalances, don't think that Indigenous Australians do it tough and don't believe that we should be accepting refugees. What is that all about?
    Because ignorance knows no boundaries. Plus, ignorance is bliss. The idea of living in bliss IS fairly tempting, you have to admit......

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    Sorry, I find it very difficult to believe that men are just better for those jobs. 50% of Australians are women, yet only few will ever make it to the highest positions in government?

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    Because ignorance knows no boundaries.

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    I work in a university. The Vice-Chancellor is a man, and 6 out of 7 Deans of faculties are men. 57% of the university workforce are women. In terms of workplace structure, higher education is relatively welcoming for women, with generous maternity leave provisions, childcare in campus, etc. So those barriers are much lower. Yet still women are not being promoted to the top positions. The glass ceiling is still there!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrsBid View Post
    We know Tony Abbot is a pig we know. But now I think the media are just causing drama thats not there. They're just constantly trying to trip him up on things and sometimes ... It's just not there.
    Um no, pretty sure there really is only one female in TA's cabinet... How is quoting his own words and relaying facts about the structure of his party 'tripping him up'? If people just shut- up and not question and speak up about these things then nothing will ever change. As it is, not only are things not changing, they're getting worse for women in this country!

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    Quote Originally Posted by beebs View Post
    Why is it always the same people who don't believe in climate change, don't believe there are gender imbalances, don't think that Indigenous Australians do it tough and don't believe that we should be accepting refugees. What is that all about?
    Good luck to 'em when there's more influxes of climate change refugees.

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    and all that the Lorax left here in this mess was a small pile of rocks with the one word...UNLESS
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    The thing is that it is irrelevant that 50% of the population is female if the percentage of female politicians is less than that. For a female to be a cabinet holder, first she needs to enter politics.

    There are a number of reasons there are substantially less female politicians and maybe the argument needs to be started there. Just saying "its a boys club" isn't a definitive answer. A major reason its a "boys club" is because there are less women

    If I had a company which had 20 employees and had to place equal numbers of each gender into senior positions even though my company had only 20% of one gender -I'd have a problem with that. Oh and out of the last 7 positions I've worked in, 6 of the 7 of the boss/manager/director /owners were female

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