Wow thank you for responses so far. You have all given lots of great things to consider. We live on a farm in a country area so no sleep schools etc nearby and no family either so we are quite isolated. Over all it's been fantastic and the girls are happy most of the time and sleeping well at night so I question whether I'm worried about nothing. To be honest the longer sleep seems more necessary for me than them, to get things done! I will try some of the things suggested and see what persistence brings. I've worked loosely on Tizzy Hall and they've been happier, I just can't get the length of sleep. 2 cycles would be great without having to move them to a rocker to re-settle (my legs are getting sore from rocking two!!)

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