I can't make it a picture.. But I found it oddly appropriate for this conversation..
The problem is that marriage is considered a human right, and denying it to a proportion of people based on sexuality (or race, as was once illegal) is a violation of that human right.
It makes them homosexuals that are against marriage. Anyone can be against marriage. It is only when you are against marriage for a particular subset that there is a problem - that is where the prejudice comes in, against inter-racial marriage or against gay marriage - like TA.
I was thinking about this before, the only way that a person could possibly be completely against gay marriage, is if they don't view homosexuals as - well, not the same, not as equals. How is it possible to say that one is ok with homosexuals, but then deny them a basic thing that everyone else is able to do? I think there is definitely homophobia on Tony Abbots part.
I personally have no idea why anyone would fight so hard to get married, it means no more to me than two people living together as a couple - but, that isn't my call, if people want to get married - who is anyone to stop them?
This man lived biblically for one year. In his preparation he read a number of bibles and came up with a list of over 700 'rules'. It's a very interesting watch!
For me, a public ceremony that recognises our commitment to each other is enough, I don't understand what signing a piece of paper adds to that. The only thing in Witwicky's post above that applies is the immediate legal recognition that marriage gives a couple, but surely most people who get married have already been in a relationship for a couple of years and therefore are already entitled to the same things as a married couple.
But yes, if non-religious straights feel the need to do it, why not gays.
How can you just switch off your beliefs like that? I know some gay catholics, who attend a progressive catholic church, they don't talk about homosexuality being ok, they just don't talk about it at all. But these people really believe, to their core, that God is real and they are Catholics, they don't believe that the Catholics have it right about homosexuality - just like lots of other catholics out there.
But, the anti-gay marriage stance isn't some obscure rule buried in the Bible somewhere, it is one of the Catholic Church's official, and very vocal teachings. I think there is a difference between an individual's interpretation of the Bible and what the Church's official stance is.
Yes we have the same rights as a defacto straight couple but it is a lot more challenging and expensive not having that handy certificate that 'proves' us.
And I guess it doesn't seem as important to you because you have the luxury of the choice to marry or not. When you're the one having your rights squashed it seems like a lot of a big deal. If we were allowed to be married, truthfully, we probably wouldn't get married anyway. Not for any reason other than the convenience in the above situations. However, I still believe we have the right to make that choice, as does every other same sex couple out there.
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