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    Oh and while I'm not holding back with my opinions (sor y everyone)... I am 100% against the idea,of foodand utilities stamps. That is giving the government far too much control over some of our most vulnerable people. Just my opinion of course.

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    Not at all Izy... You are an inspiration to many in your circumstances I'm sure!

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    [QUOTE=Izy;7422340]

    But I guess that doesn't matter. I'm clearly a welfare cheat.p


    Stop it! You are a functioning, contributing member of our society. Your raising a child on your own. Please be proud and don't let the condescending tones of the uneducated make you feel defensive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VicPark View Post
    I don't think anyone is saying people on welfare shouldn't have a little win here and there: especially if they are good with their money.

    It's the big wins that get people's backs up: private school, new car, overseas holiday. Big wins make people think there's more to the story than a person being a great budgeter: such as the person getting too much welfare, welfare they are not (or should not) be entitled to.
    I also echo Izy, we bought a new car which is cheaper to register insure and run than my old car, we managed to extend our home loan, so the new car costs me an extra $45 a fortnight which was within our means and our budget. We saved and used our tax money and any other bonuses to put towards our holiday. Some of the home loan top up went to the holiday too. So there are ways to do things while still being limited with our income, i feel it's what we do with it that counts. As i said, there are people who are on a lot more income then me and we're faring much better than them because i try and make wise decisions with our money and where it goes.

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    [QUOTE=beancounter;7422361]
    Quote Originally Posted by Izy View Post

    But I guess that doesn't matter. I'm clearly a welfare cheat.p


    Stop it! You are a functioning, contributing member of our society. Your raising a child on your own. Please be proud and don't let the condescending tones of the uneducated make you feel defensive.
    Yes, this! Hold your head high Izy!

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    Quote Originally Posted by OurLittleBlessing View Post
    Not at all Izy... You are an inspiration to many in your circumstances I'm sure!
    I agree!! You are definately inspirational, and very smart and switched on with your money

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    I think sadly it's easier to point the finger at the most vulnerable in society and blame them for the hand they were dealt rather then look at the systems issues that often cause someone to end up living in poverty.

    Its easier to individualise society and not take collective responsibility for each other.

    To me it's a shame and embarrassment, the way we treat some peopke. Taking care of those that have least and ensuring equity should be a goal of society, standing together not tearing each other down, particularly those that have least.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Izy View Post
    And for the record... paid more tax than I have received in welfare. My new car cost less than many second hand ones and will have lower maintenance and fuel. And Two months overseas was 'cheaper' for me than being in Australia as family fed and housed us both the whole time.

    But I guess that doesn't matter. I'm clearly a welfare cheat.

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    No way.

    You're a clear and perfect example of a sensible woman bettering her life for herself and her son.
    Who has made big somethings out of nothing ( financially) due to personal restraints and sacrifice.

    Serious pats on the back.

    I just don't understand the mentality on this thread where a person has reached a financial goal due to sacrifice and budget and suddenly they need to be carefully looked at under a microscope.

    Wake up call for all the 'my tax bucks' sooky la lahs, it's not YOUR tax bucks, it's the Australian governments money, if you want to have a meaningful say in where it gets directed, well you better get yourselves into politics and in to the top job. I'm a tax payer and I do not begrudge our welfare system in the least, as a matter of a fact I am proud of it, as a human being it makes me proud as a whole we take care of our own.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Izy View Post
    And for the record... paid more tax than I have received in welfare. My new car cost less than many second hand ones and will have lower maintenance and fuel. And Two months overseas was 'cheaper' for me than being in Australia as family fed and housed us both the whole time.

    But I guess that doesn't matter. I'm clearly a welfare cheat.

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    This is just over dramatization in order to gain sympathy for your argument.

    Never once did I call you a welfare cheat. I didn't say welfare recipients who are good with their money are cheats.

    Of course it makes a difference that your overseas trip was funded by your relatives and not the taxpayer. I'm curious why didnt you mention this upfront? The OP is asking is it possible to get ahead on welfare. Your situation (family partly funding overseas trips) is a little unique... It's not as if others could be good with money like you and afford a 2 month overseas trip. leaving out that pertinent information... did you want to falsely inflame the debate?

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    I think it just demonstrates that on the outset people who see Izy going on an overseas holiday (or myself for that matter) will be like, how on earth can they afford that? That would be most people's original assumption. To then demonstrate that she was able to afford that because she was staying with relatives is irrelevant, so now it's acceptable to you cause it wasn't 'tax payer's money'. Really?

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