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    Quote Originally Posted by sockstealingpoltergeist View Post
    Wealthy people get rich off of other people and resources.

    Most people on income supports are working as well.

    Most people on income supports will be off them in a short time frame.


    but don't let the facts get in the way of a good story.
    And this is how it should be. But is this really true (genuine question??).

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    Its incredibly clear the American system doesn't work though?

    And do you know where my hard earned dollars go? To Tony Abbot if he wins the election. That actually makes me cry. My hard earned dollars go to pay him to screw the country(I think you're a TA fan so apologies, I'm not trying to start a political debate). And Kevin Rudd at present.
    My hard earned money goes into sending refugees to PNG, which I was never asked about, never agreed to and would have never agreed to.
    My hard earned money goes to a lot of things I don't like and would never have agreed to.

    In fact, I'm sure you benefit from my hard earned cash in some way or other without really needing it.

    Eta: At work and on phone. So my replies are kind of... odd apparently.
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    I couldn't make ends meet with food stamps. Food would cost three times what I spend now

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    Quote Originally Posted by VicPark View Post
    The difference is someone who is evading paying tax (which is wrong) works for their income. While a welfare recipient is receiving someone else's money.
    To me it makes no difference. Whether the person is a welfare cheat or evading tax, it's still the government's money. I honestly think if the government focused on tax evasion more than welfare cheats they may get ahead themselves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Izy View Post
    I couldn't make ends meet with food stamps. Food would cost three times what I spend now

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    Why is that Izy? From what I know food stamps are equal value dollar for dollar? Please correct me if I am wrong? Or do you only get a limited amount?

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    food stamps can only be cashed at certain stores.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VicPark View Post
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    I think people are forgetting that with welfare you are receiving someone else's hard earned dollars. It's a privilege not a god given right. You should only be given the amount you need to feed, clothe and house your family..
    of course it's a right! We live in Australia, in a society that looks after everybody. Getting benefits if you lose your job or physically can't work is not a privilege, it's definitely a right. I've just spent time in the US and I certainly wouldn't want to live there.
    "Someone else's money"?? Does that apply to patients in hospital? To people that use libraries? We pay tax into a pool and the government uses that to run the country. We should be compassionate to people who need welfare, not resentful. I'd much rather give MORE money to those on welfare than pay to fight wars.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Star Light View Post
    I suppose because I always thought that only people who are having a hard time or are facing unforeseen circumstances and require assistance financially, would be the ones receiving full benefits. I would assume then that even if you could scrimp and save and give up the little luxuries to put money aside, that it wouldn't then be used for an overseas holiday, car etc.? I would be surprised if this was a common thing really. (This of course doesn't include people on a pension of any sort or carer etc. who of course are unable to work and should be able to live comfortably).

    I was on the dole at one stage my life after losing a job. All my efforts and spare money went into gaining qualifications etc. and being able to move back into the workforce. I am not too bad at budgeting and saving, however holidays and cars were never in my thoughts. I was receiving welfare because I needed it while I got back on my feet. I am so grateful that this is available to us. I just can't help thinking that some people use it as a way of life and not a stepping stone? I honestly don't mean to offend anyone - it is just the way I see it.
    Agree entirely. This is how I see it too. You just worded in more eloquently.

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    Tax evasion is stealing. Full stop. And yet, quite socially acceptable oddly enough. I would imagine the government loses far more money this way than through 'overly generous' welfare.

    I for one would love to see this cracked down on.

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    And for the record... paid more tax than I have received in welfare. My new car cost less than many second hand ones and will have lower maintenance and fuel. And Two months overseas was 'cheaper' for me than being in Australia as family fed and housed us both the whole time.

    But I guess that doesn't matter. I'm clearly a welfare cheat.

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