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    So the people that would most benefit from escaping from their reality and seeing what the world offers are not allowed to go because circumstances mean they are unemployed? Trust me when I say the ones that plan to never get off welfare do not have the frame of mind to be able to make the sacrifices needed to be able to go on holidays.

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    Yes, because we all know that people that work are more important. Especially if they earn a high income.

    Silly me, I keep forgetting. Must be because I am not in paid employment at the moment. Ahhh, it all makes sense now.

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    They can't access their super right now, they aren't old enough yet. The worst part is, they don't want to retire, they want to work, they live to work. These two ladies were both professors at one of the most respected Uni's in Australia, And they have spent most of their adult lives in that field - which as most people know, are cost cutting, staff cutting etc.

    I think this thread has proved that most people on sole benefits= unless they are doing the dodgy, can't afford to fund expensive overseas holidays.


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    So wait, my mums academic friends who have worked in Uni's their whole adult lives, who are so massively over qualified and too old for any employer to take them seriously, but are also too young to access their pension, shouldn't get a holiday?

    Wow, just wow.

    My tax dollars go to heaps of things I don't agree with. Like sending refugees to PNG. Unfortunately, when you live in a society like ours, you don't get to pick and choose where you tax dollars go. And that is probably a good thing - as we would all just choose different things anyway.

    I am sure they would have a fair chunk of super to fund their holidays. I never said people don't deserve holidays, I just think people who don't work shouldn't be spending tax payers money on expensive holidays. You are right, I don't get a say. I just don't see that as fair when many workers can't afford the same luxury.

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    You know I don't give a rats what people do with their benefits. If someone wants to eat baked beans for a year and wipe their butt with newspaper and save for an overseas holiday every year more power to them!
    Maybe some people on this forum are just a bit jealous of other people's money managing skills. Maybe we could all learn from these people!

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    If I could make a policy it would be that any Australian on ANY benefits can only holiday in Australia so that the tax payers money stays in Australia.




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    If those working people made the same sacrifices as those on welfare do to achieve the holidays, they could also afford the holiday. You can't argue that just because a family on 70k choose to manage their funds a certain way and as such can't afford to travel overseas, it should also mean that a family on 16-30k(aka welfare) should not be permitted to make travel a priority.

    Why are the choices and budget of working class their own choice, but in welfare you're not allowed to make informed budget decisions?

    Because I sacrifice to create myself a margin of savings, I don't qualify for benefits and assistance that some people do. It doesn't mean that they shouldn't get help. I'm lucky to be empowered with my understanding of (and ability to practically Apply) budgets.

    As with Jennaisme, sometimes you can live many years (sometimes your whole life) without understanding that there are other ways to live and things you can achieve. She should be proud to have broken the cycle (I felt like giving you a round of applause!)

    People on welfare need hope. Need inspiration. Cause it's to easy to get trapped in the cycle of thinking you're worth nothing and your choices are of no consequence. Especially when society keeps telling you that you are good for nothing and that you're not using their money right. That's not to say Let's give them all holidays, but if they manage to do these things why pull the rug out from under them?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Izy View Post
    If those working people made the same sacrifices as those on welfare do to achieve the holidays, they could also afford the holiday. You can't argue that just because a family on 70k choose to manage their funds a certain way and as such can't afford to travel overseas, it should also mean that a family on 16-30k(aka welfare) should not be permitted to make travel a priority.

    Why are the choices and budget of working class their own choice, but in welfare you're not allowed to make informed budget decisions?

    Because I sacrifice to create myself a margin of savings, I don't qualify for benefits and assistance that some people do. It doesn't mean that they shouldn't get help. I'm lucky to be empowered with my understanding of (and ability to practically Apply) budgets.

    As with Jennaisme, sometimes you can live many years (sometimes your whole life) without understanding that there are other ways to live and things you can achieve. She should be proud to have broken the cycle (I felt like giving you a round of applause!)

    People on welfare need hope. Need inspiration. Cause it's to easy to get trapped in the cycle of thinking you're worth nothing and your choices are of no consequence. Especially when society keeps telling you that you are good for nothing and that you're not using their money right. That's not to say Let's give them all holidays, but if they manage to do these things why pull the rug out from under them?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Izy View Post
    If those working people made the same sacrifices as those on welfare do to achieve the holidays, they could also afford the holiday. You can't argue that just because a family on 70k choose to manage their funds a certain way and as such can't afford to travel overseas, it should also mean that a family on 16-30k(aka welfare) should not be permitted to make travel a priority.

    Why are the choices and budget of working class their own choice, but in welfare you're not allowed to make informed budget decisions?

    Because I sacrifice to create myself a margin of savings, I don't qualify for benefits and assistance that some people do. It doesn't mean that they shouldn't get help. I'm lucky to be empowered with my understanding of (and ability to practically Apply) budgets.

    As with Jennaisme, sometimes you can live many years (sometimes your whole life) without understanding that there are other ways to live and things you can achieve. She should be proud to have broken the cycle (I felt like giving you a round of applause!)

    People on welfare need hope. Need inspiration. Cause it's to easy to get trapped in the cycle of thinking you're worth nothing and your choices are of no consequence. Especially when society keeps telling you that you are good for nothing and that you're not using their money right. That's not to say Let's give them all holidays, but if they manage to do these things why pull the rug out from under them?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Izy View Post
    If those working people made the same sacrifices as those on welfare do to achieve the holidays, they could also afford the holiday. You can't argue that just because a family on 70k choose to manage their funds a certain way and as such can't afford to travel overseas, it should also mean that a family on 16-30k(aka welfare) should not be permitted to make travel a priority.

    Why are the choices and budget of working class their own choice, but in welfare you're not allowed to make informed budget decisions?

    Because I sacrifice to create myself a margin of savings, I don't qualify for benefits and assistance that some people do. It doesn't mean that they shouldn't get help. I'm lucky to be empowered with my understanding of (and ability to practically Apply) budgets.

    As with Jennaisme, sometimes you can live many years (sometimes your whole life) without understanding that there are other ways to live and things you can achieve. She should be proud to have broken the cycle (I felt like giving you a round of applause!)

    People on welfare need hope. Need inspiration. Cause it's to easy to get trapped in the cycle of thinking you're worth nothing and your choices are of no consequence. Especially when society keeps telling you that you are good for nothing and that you're not using their money right. That's not to say Let's give them all holidays, but if they manage to do these things why pull the rug out from under them?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jennybaby View Post
    I am sure they would have a fair chunk of super to fund their holidays. I never said people don't deserve holidays, I just think people who don't work shouldn't be spending tax payers money on expensive holidays. You are right, I don't get a say. I just don't see that as fair when many workers can't afford the same luxury.
    I really get so tired of opinions such as these. WHY shouldnt those that scrimp and save be afforded the luxury of an expensive holiday. You say you dont think its fair, but why isnt it fair?

    Just because you are on government benefits doesnt make you a second class citizen that isnt allowed the same free will as those who dont recieve benifits at all. Its their money, not mine.If you can save for a decent holiday while living on less the 30k a year, more power to you!!

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