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    Quote Originally Posted by FiveInTheBed View Post
    Dave, your view is outdated - just like that book you seem to be hiding behind.
    He is still entitled to have that view however misguided we think it is, the fact that he is religious should enable us to understand why he thinks what he does..

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    Does anyone know why religion is against homosexuality? Like, what started it and why?

    *Note, I say 'religion' as I am not sure exactly which ones are/aren't. I'm not religious so not clued up with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joeee View Post
    He is still entitled to have that view however misguided we think it is, the fact that he is religious should enable us to understand why he thinks what he does..


    I know plenty of Christians who support marriage equality - so whilst the proclamation of religious upbringing may give me an insight... no, I still cannot fathom WHY a person in this day and age would oppose marriage equality.
    But I suppose Dave did say he would vote for it either way..so I guess that isn't 'officially opposing'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dancingchipmunk View Post
    Does anyone know why religion is against homosexuality? Like, what started it and why?

    *Note, I say 'religion' as I am not sure exactly which ones are/aren't. I'm not religious so not clued up with it.

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    I think like most things from those times it's an uncleanliness factor. It was very difficult to wash properly, so if you participated in anal s3x, it could have been somewhat dangerous to both participants if both weren't clean. I don't mean STD wise, I more mean if a man got excrement down his urethra(Which can still be a common issue) and couldn't get it out, the risk of infection is quite severe and painful. Whereas now there's condoms and things to protect against that issue, and if people decide to have unprotected s3x, there's also medical assistance available for it if it happens, before an infection were to set in and work it's way through a human body.
    It's why so many of the "rules" from those days don't apply in these ones. Pork used to be an unclean meat, which made a lot of people sick to eat it, so God banned it to keep them healthy. And so on and so forth. Though I can't speak for all the things said in the Bible, just share the common view as to why certain laws existed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FiveInTheBed View Post
    I know plenty of Christians who support marriage equality - so whilst the proclamation of religious upbringing may give me an insight... no, I still cannot fathom WHY a person in this day and age would oppose marriage equality.
    But I suppose Dave did say he would vote for it either way..so I guess that isn't 'officially opposing'.
    I agree

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    The bible has nothing to do with Australian Law (well, I should say it isn't supposed to). I'd be in big trouble right now if our laws were based on the bible...currently wearing polyblend.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dancingchipmunk View Post
    Does anyone know why religion is against homosexuality? Like, what started it and why?

    *Note, I say 'religion' as I am not sure exactly which ones are/aren't. I'm not religious so not clued up with it.

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    There'd be quite a few reasons...just in regards to the bible, 'our behaviour vs their behaviour' in regards to societies would be one, Israelites vs Canaanites
    Another would be procreation - when the groups of people needed to build up their population so that they could attempt resisting defeat.
    I guess you'd really need to look at the individual verse and its context to answer that question though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Benji View Post
    The bible has nothing to do with Australian Law (well, I should say it isn't supposed to). I'd be in big trouble right now if our laws were based on the bible...currently wearing polyblend.
    Me too, since I'm pondering a round haircut

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    I read something on fb the other day I found funny I cant quote exactly but it was along the lines of - the bible says if man lie side by side with another man they should be stoned - so god meant pot & same sex marriage should both be made legal. Lol. I find this most appropriate now, considering my view on the bible is its all subject to interpretation.

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    Dave, here are 76 things banned according to the book of Leviticus. Some are quite sensible, others ridiculous. If you can honestly say you adhere to every single one of these I might accept religion as an excuse- but you already said earlier on that you are not a practicing Christian so...
    76 things banned in Leviticus

    Here’s chapter and verse on a more-or-less comprehensive list of things banned in the Leviticus book of the bible. A decent number of them are punishable by death.

    Unless you’ve never done any of them (and 54 to 56 are particularly tricky), perhaps it’s time to lay off quoting 18:22 for a while?

    1. Burning any yeast or honey in offerings to God (2:11)

    2. Failing to include salt in offerings to God (2:13)

    3. Eating fat (3:17)

    4. Eating blood (3:17)

    5. Failing to testify against any wrongdoing you’ve witnessed (5:1)

    6. Failing to testify against any wrongdoing you’ve been told about (5:1)

    7. Touching an unclean animal (5:2)

    8. Carelessly making an oath (5:4)

    9. Deceiving a neighbour about something trusted to them (6:2)

    10. Finding lost property and lying about it (6:3)

    11. Bringing unauthorised fire before God (10:1)

    12. Letting your hair become unkempt (10:6)

    13. Tearing your clothes (10:6)

    14. Drinking alcohol in holy places (bit of a problem for Catholics, this ‘un) (10:9)

    15. Eating an animal which doesn’t both chew cud and has a divided hoof (cf: camel, rabbit, pig) (11:4-7)

    16. Touching the carcass of any of the above (problems here for rugby) (11:8)

    17. Eating – or touching the carcass of – any seafood without fins or scales (11:10-12)

    18. Eating – or touching the carcass of - eagle, the vulture, the black vulture, the red kite, any kind of black kite, any kind of raven, the horned owl, the screech owl, the gull, any kind of hawk, the little owl, the cormorant, the great owl, the white owl, the desert owl, the osprey, the stork, any kind of heron, the hoopoe and the bat. (11:13-19)

    19. Eating – or touching the carcass of – flying insects with four legs, unless those legs are jointed (11:20-22)

    20. Eating any animal which walks on all four and has paws (good news for cats) (11:27)

    21. Eating – or touching the carcass of – the weasel, the rat, any kind of great lizard, the gecko, the monitor lizard, the wall lizard, the skink and the chameleon (11:29)

    22. Eating – or touching the carcass of – any creature which crawls on many legs, or its belly (11:41-42)

    23. Going to church within 33 days after giving birth to a boy (12:4)

    24. Going to church within 66 days after giving birth to a girl (12:5)

    25. Having sex with your mother (18:7)

    26. Having sex with your father’s wife (18:8)

    27. Having sex with your sister (18:9)

    28. Having sex with your granddaughter (18:10)

    29. Having sex with your half-sister (18:11)

    30. Having sex with your biological aunt (18:12-13)

    31. Having sex with your uncle’s wife (18:14)

    32. Having sex with your daughter-in-law (18:15)

    33. Having sex with your sister-in-law (18:16)

    34. Having sex with a woman and also having sex with her daughter or granddaughter (bad news for Alan Clark) (18:17)

    35. Marrying your wife’s sister while your wife still lives (18:18)

    36. Having sex with a woman during her period (18:19)

    37. Having sex with your neighbour’s wife (18:20)

    38. Giving your children to be sacrificed to Molek (18:21)

    39. Having sex with a man “as one does with a woman” (18:22)

    40. Having sex with an animal (18:23)

    41. Making idols or “metal gods” (19:4)

    42. Reaping to the very edges of a field (19:9)

    43. Picking up grapes that have fallen in your vineyard (19:10)

    44. Stealing (19:11)

    45. Lying (19:11)

    46. Swearing falsely on God’s name (19:12)

    47. Defrauding your neighbour (19:13)

    48. Holding back the wages of an employee overnight (not well observed these days) (19:13)

    49. Cursing the deaf or abusing the blind (19:14)

    50. Perverting justice, showing partiality to either the poor or the rich (19:15)

    51. Spreading slander (19:16)

    52. Doing anything to endanger a neighbour’s life (19:16)

    53. Seeking revenge or bearing a grudge (19:18)

    54. Mixing fabrics in clothing (19:19)

    55. Cross-breeding animals (19:19)

    56. Planting different seeds in the same field (19:19)

    57. Sleeping with another man’s slave (19:20)

    58. Eating fruit from a tree within four years of planting it (19:23)

    59. Practising divination or seeking omens (tut, tut astrology) (19:26)

    60. Trimming your beard (19:27)

    61. Cutting your hair at the sides (19:27)

    62. Getting tattoos (19:28)

    63. Making your daughter prostitute herself (19:29)

    64. Turning to mediums or spiritualists (19:31)

    65. Not standing in the presence of the elderly (19:32)

    66. Mistreating foreigners – “the foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born” (19:33-34)

    67. Using dishonest weights and scales (19:35-36)

    68. Cursing your father or mother (punishable by death) (20:9)

    69. Marrying a prostitute, divorcee or widow if you are a priest (21:7,13)

    70. Entering a place where there’s a dead body as a priest (21:11)

    71. Slaughtering a cow/sheep and its young on the same day (22:28)

    72. Working on the Sabbath (23:3)

    73. Blasphemy (punishable by stoning to death) (24:14)

    74. Inflicting an injury; killing someone else’s animal; killing a person must be punished in kind (24:17-22)

    75. Selling land permanently (25:23)

    76. Selling an Israelite as a slave (foreigners are fine) (25:42)

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