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    That's as ridiculous as suggesting low income earners spit out more kids just so they can get the benefits.

    Noone earning $150k a year is going to keep on having kids just to get six months maternity leave at their salary. It might make it easier for them to do so, but it's not going to be a motivator any more than the current scheme is a motivator for someone on minimum wage (cos you know, that is replacing their income like for like - are they all out there breeding like rabbits just to get their 'free' money?).

    This is about keeping women of all salaries in the workforce. Not the relative worth of SAHMs and working mums and low income earners and high income earners.

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    I believe it should be set amount everyone gets. People on high incomes already have a huge advantage.

    I knew someone years ago that worked for a govt agency, long before the PPL scheme come in. They had full wage pro rata for 6 months maternity leave. She had a baby every year in the 4 years I knew her. She came off maternity leave, and within 3 months she was pg again, would work until she was almost due. Rinse and repeat. I heard she had another after I left the job. Now I know that's still within the guidelines of the rules. But would she really have had a child every year if she didn't get such a generous maternity package?

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    As a small business owner we would never survive if we had to pay paid maternity leave , the increased super and allowances are already a struggle for most small businesses ( we have 8 staff)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elijahs Mum View Post
    As a small business owner we would never survive if we had to pay paid maternity leave , the increased super and allowances are already a struggle for most small businesses ( we have 8 staff)
    I think the tax payer will foot the bill not business.

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    Interesting article on Australia's PPL compared with other countries.


    www.sapo.org.au/binary/binary11961/Parental.pdf


    Until recently, Australia was one of only two OECD countries without a national parental leavescheme. However, in its 2009-10 Budget the Australian Labor government announced theintroduction of a paid parental leave scheme to commence on 1 January 2011.

    After analysing the details of the Australian scheme in relation to these criteria the study concludesthat the Australian paid parental leave scheme is an important advance towards improving theposition of women in the labour market and will be of benefit for the many women currently withoutaccess to paid parental leave. However, the Australian scheme falls short of the standards provided inthe best of the European schemes in several aspects and it identifies a number of areas where theAustralian provisions could be improved in order to encourage further shifts towards gender equalitywithin households and in society. These initiatives include:
    o increasing the level of parental leave payment to more closely match parents’ normalearnings;
    o increasing the provision of fathers’ or partners’ only leave to a level that encourages agreater level of responsibility for parenting;

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    I think that if it doesn't match earnings then it's not a maternity leave scheme - it's a baby bonus.

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    I guess my opinions are unpopular amongst high income families and that's ok I just don't see how the country can fund this type of scheme. Let's increase it a bit to make it more attractive, I have no issue with that. But matching high income wages? nope I can't agree with that.

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    Exactly. If your outgoing are $1000 per week pre-baby, and minimum wage gives your $600 per week, how the heck are you going to make ends meet to the extent where you can take a decent amount of time off work with your baby? Answer? You can't. Your outgoings can't just change unfortunately. In fact they increase!


    Quote Originally Posted by babyla View Post
    I think that if it doesn't match earnings then it's not a maternity leave scheme - it's a baby bonus.

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    Someone please correct me if I'm wrong but about 14% of Australians earn over $150,000?

    If that's the case then this scheme is supporting 86% of families continue living at their current standard of living whilst taking this maternity leave.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kw123 View Post
    Exactly. If your outgoing are $1000 per week pre-baby, and minimum wage gives your $600 per week, how the heck are you going to make ends meet to the extent where you can take a decent amount of time off work with your baby? Answer? You can't. Your outgoings can't just change unfortunately. In fact they increase!
    But that can be argued for low income families too. Yet they are told to stop having the tax payer fund having babies and work it out themselves.
    Surely if you have a household income of 300k you can put aside some cash to top it up? If we have another child under libs we will get nothing. I simply wouldn't have another if I couldn't afford the baby knowing that. The PPL scheme is to reward parents for working before the birth and make it easier to have time home with the baby, which I wholy support. It's not meant to keep high income people in the same standard of living they are used to.

    I know that's going to be unpopular, but well I never shy from expressing my opinion

    Any hoo I'll leave it there before I get clubbed with sticks

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