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    Quote Originally Posted by AM View Post
    Yes. I had exactly the same problem when my PND was at its worst, and I was a danger to my kids and myself. It's a terrifying situation to be in.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RipperRita View Post
    Neither.
    Tough Love might damage a vulnerable person into not getting help or not being honest with how bad things are.
    I wouldn't Tip Toe around either however I would be mindful of how touchy and sensitive someone with mental illness can be.

    something like this...
    "RipperRita, it is never acceptable to smash your husbands car with a broom, however don't beat yourself up over it and let it define who you are. You are not a bad person. You are quite obviously an unwell person at the moment and fortunatly this illness can be treated and you will recover"
    Touché. And I absolutely agree.

    I've just seen VP be a little inconsistent on here over the last few days about mothers with mental illness.

    On one hand a member whose alleged mental illness has impacted the lives of her children shouldn't be questioned about her actions and on the other mental illness isn't an excuse for neglect causing the death of innocent children.

    We as a community can play a huge role in helping others in our community and I don't think that can be minimised. I think it's v rare hubbers don't sense the way a poster in distress needs to be responded to. Whether they need gentle support or a bit of a reality check.

    Contrariness for the sake of contrariness isn't helpful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NancyBlackett View Post
    What if she asked for help and was given oodles of it. Advice, practical assistance, sympathy and encouragement. Yet she ignored it all. And came back over and over saying the same thing.

    Would you step up your efforts to get through to her? To get her to help herself or allow others to help her?
    Yeah I would stop. I definitley wouldn't nag and bully someone that couldn't comprehend what was going on because that might push them over the edge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NancyBlackett View Post
    Touché. And I absolutely agree.

    I've just seen VP be a little inconsistent on here over the last few days about mothers with mental illness.

    On one hand a member whose alleged mental illness has impacted the lives of her children shouldn't be questioned about her actions and on the other mental illness isn't an excuse for neglect causing the death of innocent children.

    We as a community can play a huge role in helping others in our community and I don't think that can be minimised. I think it's v rare hubbers don't sense the way a poster in distress needs to be responded to. Whether they need gentle support or a bit of a reality check.

    Contrariness for the sake of contrariness isn't helpful.
    Agree 100%

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    Quote Originally Posted by sweetpeamummy View Post
    What about the father, was he charged and tried as well? I thought he lived in the house?
    http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/quee...801-2r27d.html

    http://m.perthnow.com.au/news/nation...-1226691302779
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    Quote Originally Posted by NancyBlackett View Post
    Touché. And I absolutely agree.

    I've just seen VP be a little inconsistent on here over the last few days about mothers with mental illness.

    On one hand a member whose alleged mental illness has impacted the lives of her children shouldn't be questioned about her actions and on the other mental illness isn't an excuse for neglect causing the death of innocent children.

    We as a community can play a huge role in helping others in our community and I don't think that can be minimised. I think it's v rare hubbers don't sense the way a poster in distress needs to be responded to. Whether they need gentle support or a bit of a reality check.

    Contrariness for the sake of contrariness isn't helpful.
    Im not being inconsistent.

    I just don't believe in bullying someone who doesn't comprehend, as it may tip them over the edge.

    Someone who has killed their kids has already tipped over the edge so I don't feel the need (or desire) to be nice about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RipperRita View Post
    Neither.
    Tough Love might damage a vulnerable person into not getting help or not being honest with how bad things are.
    I wouldn't Tip Toe around either however I would be mindful of how touchy and sensitive someone with mental illness can be.

    something like this...
    "RipperRita, it is never acceptable to smash your husbands car with a broom, however don't beat yourself up over it and let it define who you are. You are not a bad person. You are quite obviously an unwell person at the moment and fortunatly this illness can be treated and you will recover"
    That's good advice!

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    Quote Originally Posted by VicPark View Post
    Yeah I would stop. I definitley wouldn't nag and bully someone that couldn't comprehend what was going on because that might push them over the edge.
    What if they could comprehend the situation though and rather chose to ignore any advice that didn't allow them to be a victim? and when does honesty become bullying?

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    Quote Originally Posted by delirium View Post
    What if they could comprehend the situation though and rather chose to ignore any advice that didn't allow them to be a victim? and when does honesty become bullying?
    If we're talking about the same thing I don't believe that person is in a fit state of mind.


 

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