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    and all that the Lorax left here in this mess was a small pile of rocks with the one word...UNLESS
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    There are rednecks in all areas not just national electorates.

    Sure people quote the sources that have been mentioned, but we've also seen that the majority view is not reflected on bubhub politics wise. The opposite in fact. The people who do the opinion polls certainly dont use bubhub as a source.

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    Oh yes, I agree - polls are polls and not really worth much. But look at this - these are our tv ratings by day - every single day either A current Affair or Today Tonight is in the top 5 - most days in the top 3.

    http://www.tvtonight.com.au/category/ratings

    And when it isn't those shows - it is other crap reality shows. What is the world coming to?

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    Quote Originally Posted by beebs View Post
    Oh yes, I agree - polls are polls and not really worth much. But look at this - these are our tv ratings by day - every single day either A current Affair or Today Tonight is in the top 5 - most days in the top 3.

    http://www.tvtonight.com.au/category/ratings

    And when it isn't those shows - it is other crap reality shows. What is the world coming to?
    Ignorance is bliss. People don't want to check for facts because it might force them to step outside their comfort zone. The truth is ugly and confronting and sometimes, it's easier not to know.

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    Rudd with one of his candidates.

    SEXISTS !!!



    http://www.theage.com.au/federal-pol...816-2s28o.html

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    Some people are really quite switched on with what is going on with politics, how the system works. There are some members on the forum, both lib and labor voters that are very interested and educated on the subject.

    But.... and I will say there is just my experience.... most people don't know a whole lot beyond who is heading the party and a few basic policies. I have an old friend that has been poor most of his life, has lots of kids, gets CL assistance and a wife that doesn't work. Yet he raves on about the virtues of the liberal party and how they are going to solve the boat people crisis. That labor is spending all his money. It makes me laugh bc a)he really doesn't understand the policies of either party b) for a low one income family receiving CL, no education, no super the libs policies completely are at odds with their family.

    I could list heaps more examples of people that really are quite uneducated on the policies and start ranting about the sensationalist stuff in the Murdoch papers and I just think wow, you really have no idea! and not bc they plan to vote lib, each to their own, but bc they are voting lib based on their scare campaigns and constant rubbishing of the ALP. If you ask these people what policies they are actually for in the libs beyond boat people and many will give a glazed vacant expression.

    Of course that's not to say labor voters aren't uneducated about politics, but I find the libs in the last 5 years really bad for having zero policy and just spin doctoring everything that labor does.

    I agree with Beebs. We are still to see anything of substance of the Libs beyond some vague reference to cutting the school kids bonus, *maybe* cutting the BB and they are going to do a better job with boat people. Sorry but that does not make a policy portfolio only weeks out from the election.

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    Quote Originally Posted by beebs View Post
    Oh yes, I agree - polls are polls and not really worth much. But look at this - these are our tv ratings by day - every single day either A current Affair or Today Tonight is in the top 5 - most days in the top 3.

    http://www.tvtonight.com.au/category/ratings

    And when it isn't those shows - it is other crap reality shows. What is the world coming to?
    Polls are worth a great deal. Polls have toppled 2 x Prime Ministers in the last 4 years.

    People will buy/watch what they want. Maybe the ABC/SBS shows are not very good, which is why people aren't watching them.
    We live in a free society where people can choose what the read, listen to, and watch. People are not stupid and they can determine what is right and wrong in their eyes. They do not need the 'know-it-alls' to tell them what they should and shouldn't be listening to. Maybe your views would be better suited to a country such as North Korea.

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    Quote Originally Posted by delirium View Post
    I agree with Beebs. We are still to see anything of substance of the Libs beyond some vague reference to cutting the school kids bonus, *maybe* cutting the BB and they are going to do a better job with boat people. Sorry but that does not make a policy portfolio only weeks out from the election.

    Maybe you are not as educated on politics as you are claiming, if they are the only policies that you mention. You didn't even mention the carbon tax. Maybe you should read more of the Murdoch press to learn some more

    Do you not find it interesting that as people get older and wiser, that they tend to be more likely to vote for the Liberal party?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Father View Post
    Maybe you are not as educated on politics as you are claiming, if they are the only policies that you mention. You didn't even mention the carbon tax. Maybe you should read more of the Murdoch press to learn some more

    Do you not find it interesting that as people get older and wiser, that they tend to be more likely to vote for the Liberal party?
    lol clearly we mix in different circles as the oldies I know are die hard labor supporters. Ahh the carbon tax another vague policy with no real numbers or definitive direction.

    Father, obviously you are a libs supporter, that's more than ok, different stokes for different folks and all that. But your condescension of those that refuse to blindly love Abbott or who have lefty beliefs is really bordering on rude. And every political thread starts with opposing views but quite polite discussions. Pegasus and I have polar opposite views on politics but I respect how she discusses things. But whether you intend to or not, the way you post changes the focus of the thread to aggressiveness. You are PA to people, who they return that. And we are left with how this thread is currently running - a good discussion turned into a tit for tat.

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    The herald sun is a conservative newspaper, so is the daily telegraph. They are the highest selling newspapers in Australia. A lot of people do believe what they read in them and see on aca and tt.

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    And just want to add, if you google right wing shock jocks, loads comes up. If you type in left wing shock jocks, nothing!

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