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    Quote Originally Posted by Missy RJ View Post
    Hypothetical question: if you longed to bf, but for some reason you couldn't whether issues with bub, you etc, etc. What would you do? Would you resort to ff straight away, source donor milk? What?

    interested in opinions
    I haven't read everybody else's opinions but I'd go straight to formula.

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    Quote Originally Posted by redlipsandpearls View Post
    Oh FFS
    Your post would definitely have to be in the top 10 most ridiculous posts that I have read on bubhub... and believe me, there have been some doozies!
    Lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by risfaerie View Post
    This fact sheet, like so many other fact sheets, does not tell the reader why it is better. Nor does it state how much better. From what I understand, the difference in sids cases between breast and bottle fed babies is pretty minute, and studies have indicated that it could simply be the environmental factors (less likely to sleep through night, more likely to sleep in same room as mother) that provide the reduction in SIDs rates.

    Many studies have failed to find a difference at all.

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    It's not minute, actually, it's pretty significant-
    http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/...75C2V220110613
    http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/228457.php

    http://www.infantrisk.com/content/br...ath-syndrome-0

    It's more to do with protective factors reducing minor infections among bf babies. I actually thought the same as you until just now when curiosity prompted me to look it up. It seemed ridiculous that SIDS guidelines would be based on something bordering on insignificant.
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    Re the milk donations. I had a look at the page I used to look up, and you were right, there were some that were 4 or 5 litres worth, and some that were 200mls worth, but it is for all over, Newcastle, the hunter, Sydney, Woolongong. And I noticed there were lots of repeat messages saying things like "if anyone can help out (insert name) in (insert hospital) and there were like 4 or 5 repeat messages of the same thing, making it look like she wasn't getting the help?

    I really am not sure how anyone with a newborn would have the time to drive around all those areas trying to pick up breast milk. I can understand if you had close relatives or friends lactating, but anything else just seems massive. And that would really only be if you had a straight forward birth, or a helpful partner to drive around? Some people have really traumatic births and awful sickness after - I was not up to sitting up when I got sepsis, let alone driving around looking for donor milk.

    I can understand for some it may be the best choice, for some others, it just isn
    t viable either.



    Re the what happens if you get stuck in a car or on a flooded roof comment. So even those who use donor milk would be screwed. Hmmm. Some people just really can't breastfeed, whatever you may think about it

    Quote Originally Posted by Atropos View Post
    It's not minute, actually, it's pretty significant-
    http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/...75C2V220110613
    http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/228457.php

    http://www.infantrisk.com/content/br...ath-syndrome-0

    It's more to do with protective factors reducing minor infections among bf babies. I actually thought the same as you until just now when curiosity prompted me to look it up. It seemed ridiculous that SIDS guidelines would be based on something bordering on insignificant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Atropos View Post
    It's not minute, actually, it's pretty significant-
    http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/...75C2V220110613
    http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/228457.php

    http://www.infantrisk.com/content/br...ath-syndrome-0

    It's more to do with protective factors reducing minor infections among bf babies. I actually thought the same as you until just now when curiosity prompted me to look it up. It seemed ridiculous that SIDS guidelines would be based on something bordering on insignificant.
    It does also say this in the first study "While the findings can't prove that breastfeeding causes the lower risk of SIDS, the authors write in Pediatrics that other explanations seem unlikely."

    We know there are so many things that may cause SIDS, if you were breastfeeding a baby and smoking in the house, your baby would still be at a massive risk.

    Some people do everything right and their baby stills dies. They just don't know enough about SIDs to definitively say one way or another, we know that things lower the risk sure, and we all try and do what we can. I just find the whole thing strange that some people (and I'm not talking about you specifically Atropos!) are so pro breastmilk, that they actually think it is like a magic fluid that will save their baby from SIDs, Diseases, being overweight and higher IQs. The studies are showing that this just isn't the case.

    Sure breastmilk is normal. But if for some reason you can't or won't, your baby is not going to end up fat, stupid and sick - unless it is in your genes. There is nothing we can do about our genes - but they play a far bigger part in how someone is going to turn out compared with breastfeeding or bottle feeding.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mama and her little bear View Post
    wish someone had told my bm it was ment to do that we spent the first 12 months of little mans life from one infection to another (including serious rsv infect at 7 weeks resulting in bronchiolitis and weeks hospital stay, constant colds, chest infection at 4 months and he reacted to the antibiotics, then just a constant ****** of snot and colds etc and then the croup started)

    He nursed til 2.5 and rather amusingly this is the healthiest he's been in a LONG time lol

    to my bm which didnt do its damned job lol
    Lol so he only got major infections? So BM did its job and protected him against minor ones?

    Look, I think formula is s perfectly acceptable way to feed- I think all this discussion highlights is that no one in any side of the fence would object to formula being better, with full disclosure of ingredients, any associated risk factors etc and then on the flip side, for donor BM to be adequately screened, pasteurized, readily available on a who-needs-it-most basis and affordable.
    So... How do we make it happen?

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    Its genes, I have done so much reading on these types of things, you cannot change someones genes, no matter how much breastmilk they get. I am glad he is doing better now!!

    Quote Originally Posted by mama and her little bear View Post
    A constant ****** of colds / temps / etc are not major infections they're minor,
    He got 3 that maybe called major (bronch, chest infection and then croup)

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    If I couldn't have breastfed and I had a sister who was then I would have done the 'wet nurse' thing and topped up with formula. If I had no sister in that position then formula would have been the option. I hate that some mother's feel bad about formula feeding. Baby is being fed and thriving? Then that's all that matters. Mum's have it tough enough as it is. They don't need any more added to their load!

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    Formula without a doubt. With formula I know what minerals and vitamins they have in it. But with donar milk I wouldn't know what they eat or whats in it. Plus formula is easy to store and easily accessible.

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    I have no doubt that the milk from a mother I know might be a better source than formula, but I'm still not sure how you'd approach that conversation, or just how convenient it would be. Yes, my life is about convenience sometimes! Of course, I wouldn't feed her something that was bad for her but we have to look at our overall situation, not just what type of milk to use. If it was that simple most people would probably chose breastmilk, their own breastmilk at that, but there are other factors that come into play.


 

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