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    Couldn't breast feed used formula either way the kids still being fed! & my kids are happy healthy formula fed. Would have breast fed if I could have

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bubmum View Post
    I personally have sleepless nights when I think that people rely on a company /companies that have been proven to be "evil" to feed their children. Babies in China dying from tainted formula...the echo effect here and in other countries are the limits being placed on the amount of formula you can buy, as a black market has erupted. What would you do if you just can't get to that precious can..stranded in a broken down car, trapped on a roof in a flood. The UN has a massive project underway to get Mothers in developing countries to get babies back on bm, and off of the formula. Because it isn't safe.In those regards, the companies are purely evil...risking the lives of babies for a profit...probably the vilest thing a human being can.do.
    Nice way to make FF mums feel terrible...

    I hope your sleepless nights continue.
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    I've had to make the decision for both of my babies - the first time I used formula, and the second time I did my research and used donor milk. I would choose donor milk for subsequent babies again without fail.

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    Quote Originally Posted by House Mumma View Post
    This is what I've always wondered as well. Feeding breast milk from a lactating mumma whose baby is say 10 months old to your bub who is say 4 months old. The milk would be different and totally not suited to your baby to meet his/her need at that current stage of development. How is that better than ff?

    I'm not being smart, just genuinely interested as I've always wondered about this.
    I did a lot of research into this, and the breastmilk of any aged baby is safer for the gut health of babies than formula - I will link research tomorrow when I can access it on my computer. Plus the basic make up of breastmilk provides the nutrients required for development regardless of the age of the donor's baby and recipient baby. My DS has absolutely thrived on donor milk, despite there being large differences in some of the donor babies ages. Ideally you source milk as close in age as possible but its not essential.
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    I realise there is no scientific basis for what I am about to post but I have known so many adults and children who are healthy and were fed formula. I have never come across anyone or heard of anyone who had health issues from being ff apart from the case in china where melamine was added to the formula. So I am talking about in Australia where food standards are much more strict does anyone know of babies who suffered from formula? I highly doubt it. Obviously this does not include babies who have food allergies etc. I just don't get why some ppl are so anti formula??? Would you be anti processed / store bought non organic food as well ?

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    Formula. Wouldn't be "resorting" to anything either, would simply be moving to plan B.

    Oddly, I would find it hard to trust donor milk but until recently have been suffering rampant oversupply and have often thought that if i could donate some of it it would not be such a waste and might help someone. So for the poster wondering why someone would bother, there is one potential reason?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mum2b87 View Post
    Where's the proof that there's anything harmful in formula? I just don't understand the hesitation at all
    Quote Originally Posted by Jontu View Post
    So I am talking about in Australia where food standards are much more strict does anyone know of babies who suffered from formula? I highly doubt it. Obviously this does not include babies who have food allergies etc. I just don't get why some ppl are so anti formula??? Would you be anti processed / store bought non organic food as well ?
    There are risks in using formula. This doesn't mean that formula is not a good alternative if breastmilk is not available, but it is important to be aware of so you can make informed choices.

    From Sids & Kids, formula increases the risk for SIDS.
    http://www.sidsandkids.org/wp-conten...feedingweb.pdf

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    As much as we all know that breast is normal. There are new studies coming out all the time that show it isn't that magical elixir that we all once thought it was.

    http://www.ntnu.edu/news/breastfeeding

    "The largest study that has been done on breastfeeding and health was undertaken in Belarus. More than 17 000 women and children were studied, and the children were followed until they were six years old. This study cuts the legs out from underneath most of the assertions that breastfeeding has health benefits, the researchers say. For example, the Belarus study found no signs that asthma and allergies were less prevalent in children who were nursed for longer than children who were nursed less."

    I'm all for breastfeeding, but I hate when people leave "both sides" out, science can be cherry picked to prove a point. But for every study that shows the benefit of breast feeding, there are ones that show that breast milk may not be as beneficial as once thought.

    I am sure there will be lots of "biased", "ebil pharmas" "who paid for the studies" etc, but like it or not a study with 17,000 people is not a drop in the ocean and is worth looking into.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bubbles10 View Post
    There are risks in using formula. This doesn't mean that formula is not a good alternative if breastmilk is not available, but it is important to be aware of so you can make informed choices.

    From Sids & Kids, formula increases the risk for SIDS.
    http://www.sidsandkids.org/wp-conten...feedingweb.pdf
    This fact sheet, like so many other fact sheets, does not tell the reader why it is better. Nor does it state how much better. From what I understand, the difference in sids cases between breast and bottle fed babies is pretty minute, and studies have indicated that it could simply be the environmental factors (less likely to sleep through night, more likely to sleep in same room as mother) that provide the reduction in SIDs rates.

    Many studies have failed to find a difference at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bubmum View Post
    I personally have sleepless nights when I think that people rely on a company /companies that have been proven to be "evil" to feed their children. Babies in China dying from tainted formula...the echo effect here and in other countries are the limits being placed on the amount of formula you can buy, as a black market has erupted. What would you do if you just can't get to that precious can..stranded in a broken down car, trapped on a roof in a flood. The UN has a massive project underway to get Mothers in developing countries to get babies back on bm, and off of the formula. Because it isn't safe.In those regards, the companies are purely evil...risking the lives of babies for a profit...probably the vilest thing a human being can.do.
    Oh FFS
    Your post would definitely have to be in the top 10 most ridiculous posts that I have read on bubhub... and believe me, there have been some doozies!

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