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    Quote Originally Posted by missie_mack View Post
    Umm did you read the discussion? I was talking in comparison to caffeine and umm if you bothered to read before jumping up and down you would've noticed both of my kids received formula. Hardly alarmist... even sunscreen has pesticides in it We would jump up and down if it didn't because of bacteria growth or not enough shelf life.

    Incidently, in Australia formula companies are not compelled or forced to list all the ingredients that the formula contains. They release just what they want us to know. If you want to do more reading about it there is plenty of information at foodlabellingreview.gov.au
    Yes, I did read through the entire discussion. To me, your post is still alarmist. You wrote that formula contains pesticides but didn't care to elaborate in your original post for those who may not be informed, just made it comparable to caffeine in donor milk.

    So even if it wasn't your intention, I think putting it into the context in which you have written it, I'm pretty sure formula, with a side of pesticide conjures up all sorts of horrible and unnecessary thoughts and feelings for lots of mums reading along here.

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    I just don't get the original question, while bf is best it's not the only one you shouldn't have to feel like you resorting to anything but rather feeding your child - just unnecessary angst. I wouldn't consider a donor supply, formula is readily available and heavily regulated

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    Quote Originally Posted by KnockKnockPenny View Post
    I don't mind questions :-)
    Ok, sorry to be ignorant & personal but this is very interesting to me. I couldn't breast feed I'm one of Those rare women who don't produce milk at all. How do you produce milk? Without being preg?

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    Sourcing some random woman's breastmilk sounds a hell of a lot more difficult than just going to Coles and getting some formula. I wouldn't even know where to look, and even if Google gave me the answers, would there ALWAYS be milk available to suit my needs?

    If I run out of formula, I go to the shop. Easy. If I run out of donated breastmilk... so I then use formula anyway?

    I dunno, I have no issues with donated breastmilk at all... I just don't think it's THAT much more beneficial than formula. I think breastmilk made FOR MY BABY BY ME is better than formula, in most cases, but not some other woman's breastmilk that she's made for HER baby.

    I'd also not really want to be taking breastmilk that would be better given to premmie or sick babies.

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    I have been lucky to be able to breastfeed both of my children. If I couldn't, then I would like to think I would source donor milk, but I know in reality it might be very difficult logistically.

    I donated some milk recently, and will donate some more to a private donee, and they do take a leap of faith, really, taking the milk. But I think that most people who take the time to donate milk are probably pretty genuine and honest, so I think the risk is low, particularly if you ask for recent blood tests.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Miados2007 View Post
    Ok, sorry to be ignorant & personal but this is very interesting to me. I couldn't breast feed I'm one of Those rare women who don't produce milk at all. How do you produce milk? Without being preg?
    There's a few ways but it seems the most popular is taking the pill non stop for around 6 months (skipping the sugar pill). Apparently this tricks your body into thinking it is pregnant. At the same time, taking domperidone. About 6 weeks before expected birth, stop taking the pill, keep with the domperidone and start expressing. That's it in a short version.

    Hope that made sense

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mum2b87 View Post
    I just don't get the original question, while bf is best it's not the only one you shouldn't have to feel like you resorting to anything but rather feeding your child - just unnecessary angst. I wouldn't consider a donor supply, formula is readily available and heavily regulated
    The op asked if you really wanted to BF and couldn't, obviously if you don't actually value BF that much there wouldn't be an issue with choosing formula, for those who do its a more complicated decision.

    I'm (always) surprised that valid concerns about donor milk are discussed freely and yet any concerns over formula are invalid, alarmist and taboo. I can see why people can be cautious about donor milk, equally see why those passionate about BF have concerns about artificial milk but not sure why the latter is so controversial.

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    To the pp that asked about the amount of donor milk available at banks...

    Last year with DD, we were told that they wouldn't be able to supply us one week as hospitals got first dibs and they (the milk bank ppl) didn't have enough time to go and collect the milk from the donors. They tend to run on volunteers (donors, collecting the donations, admin etc) so in my experience it can, at times, be limited. Fortunately one of the donors decided to drop the milk off to the bank so we ended getting some.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mathermy View Post
    The op asked if you really wanted to BF and couldn't, obviously if you don't actually value BF that much there wouldn't be an issue with choosing formula, for those who do its a more complicated decision.

    I'm (always) surprised that valid concerns about donor milk are discussed freely and yet any concerns over formula are invalid, alarmist and taboo. I can see why people can be cautious about donor milk, equally see why those passionate about BF have concerns about artificial milk but not sure why the latter is so controversial.
    If you really wanted to but couldn't and the alternative is your child going hungry it's not really a tough choice to me and I don't see how that means I don't value bf'ing.

    Where's the proof that there's anything harmful in formula? I just don't understand the hesitation at all

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    My first choice would be a known donor, 2nd choice would be home made formula, and last choice would be organic commercial formula (after hours of deliberating which was the best one )


 

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