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    So I've found a legal definition of assult on the internet - I admit that I don't know how reliable this website is though.
    http://www.findlaw.com.au/articles/4...-defences.aspx
    It doesn't say that children are excluded from this definition. I'm pretty sure that they are legally protected from assult in Australia already. My assumption is that the light smacks that are generally allowed in our society are simply a case of the police not applying this law (maybe because this is considered socially acceptable). Am I wrong in this assumption, is there actually a specific law saying that assult laws don't apply to children?

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    Yes it should.

    Would I slap my husband for doing something I didn't like? No

    So why would I do it to my child?

    It is my job to teach my children how to behave and how to interact with society. How am I supposed to teach them that it is not ok to hit someone, if it is ok for me to hit them?

    I have, however, given my son a slap on the back of the hand when he tried to touch the oven, but if my husband was about to do it, i probably would have done something to stop him from hurting himself as well.

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    No, each to their own

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    No. There is a big difference between smacking and bashing your child.

    I don't see how the occasional smack could be detrimental to a child. What will be detrimental is making smacking illegal then all these perfectly good parents getting their kids taken off them. I'm sure the police could spend their time catching actual criminals.

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    So when is a smack no longer a smack?

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    Just because there is something worse, more painful and more damaging than smacking, doesn't mean that smacking is okay, though.

    I just do not understand, how physically hurting a child, is okay. I often hear the argument that smacking doesn't hurt "if done correctly" that it is just used to "shock the child" and I will always call bollocks on that. Always.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chickpea View Post
    I think it's important to realise that the authorities are not going to be going around removing children or pressing charges, what it does do, is enshrine in legislation that as a society, physically hitting children is not considered an appropriate form of.
    Exactly. Well said.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chickpea View Post
    I think it's important to realise that the authorities are not going to be going around removing children or pressing charges, what it does do, is enshrine in legislation that as a society, physically hitting children is not considered an appropriate form of discipline/punishment.

    What is the difference between hitting a child or an older person with dementia, an adult with an intellectual impairment or brain injury? They may all lack capacity to understand danger, appropriate behaviours and have difficulty controlling their emotions or behaviours, but it would be illegal to hit the adults.
    But, as I said earlier, if DH tried to press charges against me for swatting his hand away from something, then he would fail. So, legally, I CAN - to an extent - hit an adult, in many different contexts.

    I can't, however, assault an adult - or a child.

    I can also restrain DD in a car seat, but it would be illegal for me to do that to DH against his will.

    Children and adults are not the same, and to make an argument on the basis of what is right for one is right for the other is, I think, muddying the waters. (And I'm not singling you out here, Chickpea, but this is an argument a lot of people make...)

    I think the question 'what is a smack?' is a good one. When does a tap become a smack, and when does a tap become assault? Assault IS already illegal against children, and a light tap is never going to be prosecuted against for an adult.

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    So how do you teach a child not to hit someone else? Or do you teach them that adults are allowed to smack them for doing the wrong thing but they arent allowed to smack others? How does that work?

    I think smacking should be illegal. So many people cant differenciate a smack from a full on whump on the bum, but they clasify it as a smack because it was open handed on the bum, so it must be a smack, right?

    Why not give up your right to hit your child to protect other children from this? Why is it such a horrible thing?

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    For me it's challenging the societal norm that's smacking is acceptable. And that includes light smacking.

    It's one thing for educated people who are in control of their emotions to understand the diffence between an assault and a smack from a loving parent, but I believe what these doctors are getting at is that for many in society that difference is grey. You see it on here all the time - people posting observations about seeing parents smack kids in public where the smack was over the top, or unwarranted. Obviously for a lot of parents they don't understand the difference.

    If smacking was illegal it just might force people to find other ways to teach kids, which methods don't involve physically handling the child.

    I really see it as a matter of time. Like I said earlier if 33 countries can make the change Australia can to. Once upon a time it was acceptable for teachers to hit students and now it's not. Personally I don't know anyone who smacks their kids so I think culturally it is less acceptable.

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