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    MrsMac - yes it is very expensive and yes some of the tests you will be required to do through your fertility specialist. The AMH is not covered by medicare. I dont see why the doctors wont accept the one you have just done? Are there different labs that do this? Maybe someone else here knows?
    Regarding multivitamins, Elavit is very expensive. You could just buy Blackmores folic acid with iodine and a seperate vitamin b supplement. The iodine needs b vitamins to be effective. Folic acid is the most imporatant one at this stage and the one all the doctors will be asking you to take. There are many others too. You will be required to do vitamin d testing and others but they should be bulk billed by your fs.
    When we started ivf my gp made me do a heap of testing and my husband did a sperm analysis. Then when we went to see the fs she requested that I do all the tests again through their labs. I had already paid for them previously. Some I had to pay for again but many were bulk billed. She did say at the time that the lab they used for sperm analysis was more accurate then who my gp had used.My husband has paid for 3 sperm tests and they werent cheap.
    Are you able to call your fs receptionist direct and explain your situation? They may be able to help you.
    Regarding your tubes I know that my fs said to me before I went under for my hysteroscopy/laporoscopy that if my tubes were blocked or filled with bad fluid she was just going to remove them and that I would find out on waking up. I remember she said just to trust her on this one as it was the best thing to do. Luckily I had nothing wrong with them so nothing was removed. But what Im saying is you need to see your fs and they are the experts and will know what to do in order to move forward and help you have a baby. You will probably need to have a hysteroscopy/ laporoscopy.

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    Thanks so much for the replies, I am taking notes, re vitamins and such. It seems like so many other things that if its a pregnancy thing they seem to want to charge more just for having that word in there.

    The tube removal does not bother me like it did 6 years ago..in fact I had decided to have it removed like...asap, but have not known where to start with that, then that nurse confuzzled me by saying it might not be necessary. As usual, its the money thing and I just don't want to delay it all starting. So ...I can delay it by starting either, going and having the surgery done and the recovery time, or I can delay it in starting by not having the surgery and them requiring it!!

    I think I said earlier when I had my ectopics, both times they cut me horizontally from ear to ear, whether my tube was removed or not...last one 1999, maybe this time I could just have laparoscopy? Is that common now 14 years later for a lap? Those cuts took me like 10 days before I could sit up in bed without groaning, they told me not to have sex for weeks too.

    The nurse who took my blood for AMH Monday told me, this test takes longer than a lot of others because they only do them once a week and it needs to be sent to Royal Bris (I am in Toowoomba) to not book a followup appointment for 2 weeks if I can help it. I can understand with some tests especially specialised ones that fertility scientists might be better to do them, but it surprises me that sperm counts and AMH would not be a standard thing?

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    Hi Ladies,

    just checking in as I've been a bit quiet lately - just waiting on AF still... feels like she might be on her way today but I'm yet to have a positive OPK... so who knows... CD 32 today and counting, but still not my record post stim cycle . Of course DH has planned a trip away next week so I'll have to make him cancel it if she does turn up... trying not to stress about it just yet .

    MrsMac, welcome to our group - you might need to get used to waiting... there seems to be a lot of waiting with IVF (I'm terrible at it, but you're kinda forced to wait a lot). I'd recommend waiting until you see your FS before having any testing done - as you'll likely have to re-do half of them.

    Hello to you all - MrsPonti, Springy, Luca, Kenta, Panda, Bertie, Threegoes, Tinybaby, Myheart and I'm sure I've missed half of you! There's a lot of us now.

    Micca lovely to see you in here - and I'm glad to hear things are moving along nicely for you. How are those reno's going?

    Em xx

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    Mrsmac, gosh this is frustrating!!! Yes, you need a lot of referrals which is a pain. Everyone wants to cut off a piece our money cake. But if you spend over 2000 I think it is on medical costs you'll get heaps back. I will be able to clame acupuncture as our bill is already sky high. (We could have bought a good house without IVF) :-) but I rather have a bad one and try it again.


    that with your gp is truly very disappointing! Maybe you try to find someone else who is more supportive! (You pay them for their service) I have one for general things and another one for my IVF issues where I get fantastic support. She is looking up things for me to get tested strait away. I'm very lucky that way.
    so hopefully you can find one more supportive.
    Sorry about your heartbrake about your sister. That's on top of it what we have to deal with.
    good luck and you have us to support you :-)


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    Mrs mac - find yourself a nice lady GP who comes with the recommendation of friends or family to take an interest in your situation. Good gps are a must have and quite an invaluable resource and source of support. Not all doctors were created equal and you must find someone who suits your personality and needs as you can anticipate needing someone there for all those referrals and little things you will need to troubleshoot. Don't settle for second best.

    If what you want is a take home baby, the only person who can help you find the best way forward is your fertility specialist. Don't be too aggressive cutting costs if you can help it, ... You tend to get what you pay for ... Regarding questions of surgery, I think you need to mentally and emotionally put the cart before the horse and see an FS ASAP as the other ladies have suggested. He will consider the problem for you and get the ball rolling. That way you can begin to grapple with the financial costs and come up with a clear plan and budget accordingly. You may actually be wasting more time prevaricating on the 'what ifs' than taking definitive action.

    As im sure a good few of the very experienced and sensible ladies in this thread will tell you, in ivf it's good to have a plan a, b, c, and even d... As its not a predictable process and there are often multiple factors beyond your control that you must prepare for physically and emotionally. In some ways you must just take that first step and see where the journey takes you.

    As for your sister - her fertility could be a blessing in disguise - some people in this forum have used eggs from their sisters successfully.

    regarding antidepressants - it's a bit of a hot potato. no medication is without risk. Most doctors will say that they recommend being off them, however this should be done under supervision and depends on each individual case. Some have been recently linked to autism so this is a tough one. Don't be surprised if you get the runaround on this, but its best to get it sorted with your doctors before you get pregnant as changing medications in pregnancy is not recommended.

    I wish you the very best of luck with it all....

    "Audentes fortuna iuuat"- Fortune favours the brave.

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    Springrain- I started listening to that webinar last night and thought it was very good. I liked the way he described what happens to older eggs and why specialists need to be careful and cant deliver a one size fits all protocol. I was taken aback when he said at age 45, 1 in 20 eggs is normal! Thats a lot of sex and/or egg collections!

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    EPU for us this friday.
    Dilemma I hope others might help - recommended to have egg transfer day 2 and let rest grow to blast to freeze. Doing crinone for luteal support, wondering whether to use pregnyl and how often or not and how much crinone to use (daily o twice daily).

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    Ann, I hope you've recovered from your fever and are feeling better.

    Myheart, have everything crossed for your FET. I've attempted 2 natural FET's but they were cancelled due to my hormones not being at the right levels. Hope yours fall into line

    MrsErinR, also crossing everything for your FET.

    Threegoes, hope your cycle is going well so far.
    Fingers, congratuations on being PUPO!

    Mrsmac, hello and welcome. Hope your time here is short and productive, also glad to hear you're sleeping better. As MrsP and others have mentioned you can do a lot to get yourself ready. I did all my tests prior to IVF with my GP - she ordered all my tests - AMH, thyroid, oestrogen and day 21 progesterone as well as an ultrasound. My FS just went off all those tests for me, which were fine, I didn't need to repeat anything. The only test we needed when we went to the FS was for DH to get a semen analysis (he was quite resistant to the idea before that ). Good luck with finding a good GP. I do know that with SA's some labs use different criteria (I understand Kruger is stricter than other scoring systems) than other labs, and that is why it needs to be repeated sometimes. Not sure about the AMH though, mine was done through a big national pathology lab, and my FS just went off that. I also didn't have a hysteroscopy, FS said she didn't need it. Hopefully you can get an ultrasound, all of that surgery might not be necessary.
    I also use Blackmores pregnancy and breastfeeding multis, fish oil, Vit C, CoQ10, as well as the additional ones my FS put me on (inositol, L-arginine and melatonin)

    Em, great to hear from you, I had been wondering how you were getting on.

    Stillhope, how are you going?

    TeamPanda, hope little Panda is going well, and that your queasiness is easing. Great to hear you are graduating to Obs care soon! I've been going through the webinars that FS has, as well as his website and book. Those stats certainly changed my view of how many stims I should expect - he says that at my age, 1 out of every 4-5 blasties will be chromosomally normal. That in itself is quite a bit of work

    Kenta, how did your scan go? Geoff Sher doesn't seem to like some meds and supplements does he? There are so many different opinions.

    ETA- just saw your post, good luck for EPU! Have you had low progesterone on other cycles? Maybe talk to your FS and ask.

    Bertie, hope your arms are recovering ok for the 14 vials, mine were bruised for a while afterwards.

    Hi MrsP, Butterfly, Stillhope, Twocam, Micca, Octoberbaby,Threegoes, Micca and everyone else.

    AFM - just waiting for more test results and for AF to show up so I can start. DH's SA came back today too, his count and concentration have gone up more than 6x over the last one. He strongly protested against having to take the Menevit and mens' multi that I put him on, but he'll be taking them for some time I suspect. Motility still a problem though, so no miracle conceptions for us, we still need ICSI. Scientists are all ready to go, so I just have to come up with enough to biopsy.

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    Mrsmac- welcome to our thread and I hope your ivf journey is short and sweet!! Yes unfort there will be a lot of waiting, test and $$$. But just when you feel like u are about to give up focus on your goal harder - keep your eye on the prize !! Looks like you already have the ball rolling. The ladies on this thread can give you a wealth of knowledge.

    Fingerscrossed - nice to see you back! Hope you and dp are in for a good surprise in two weeks !!

    Emski - you poor thing!! Where is af when you need it?? Hope you will be able to cycle soon.

    Bertie - how you going ? When is is epu?

    Kenta- good luck with your epu. In terms of day 2 tx, I guess once you look at the fert rate you can then make a better decision. Any particular reason why this approach is recommended?

    Team panda - fs doesn't seem really phased about it!!!! He said at different times prog levels will read different (yeah but 17!!!!). How's things going for you, ms??

    Sunny - how you going ?

    Butterfly, springy. Micca, MrsP. Still hope, threegoes, hello everyone.

    Afm- still feeling pretty crook. Did another by today just to keep track of that prog level but didn't get my results bummer !Just wondering my fs said that I can do a u/s next week so I have booked one for next Friday but I will be only 6 + weeks isn't that early ?

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    Thanks for the replies, I am wondering also why would the fert nurse have indicated that since I haven't already had a child at my age the chances are slimmer? Or was she going off my history? Not sure i should read too much into it since I have spent a great deal of my life on contraceptives, not like I have been trying all my life and failed for 25 years? or is it something like..its easier to fall pregnant once you have had a child i dont think so either...


 

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