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    Their applications (for lack of a better word from my sleep deprived brain) are prioritised. That's why there's such a long processing time for visa applications.

    Eta: I was told this by my husband's case manager at DIAC.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Father View Post
    For those who cannot trust a non-Fairfax paper.


    Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politi...#ixzz2ZUsaP7RN

    I hope these people are sent home.
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    These are people who have been imprisoned without trial, for seeking asylum, which is not a crime. They have now discovered that all their waiting and hoping has quite possibly been in vain. I get that I am a bit of a bleeding heart on this issue, but seriously, in their position, you think you would not be angry? That you would not at the very least be tempted to protest, or riot, or vent your anger? I doubt that I personally would have the self control not to at the very least protest the issue.

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    I'm so confused about what I think is right


    To an extent, I agree with this decision because it might lessen the exploitation of asylum seekers by the people charging an astronomical amount for a 'ticket to freedom' and also lower the fatalities that come with the journey.


    But (and a big part of my confusion), is PNG really going to be a better place than those that they are fleeing from? Not just financially, but how will the 'locals' treat asylum seekers? Will they allow them to integrate into society?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Father View Post
    What about the remaining 10%? Should we just let them waltz in?
    For the sake of a genuine 90% fleeing for their lives? Of COURSE we do. What kind of person thinks otherwise? And let's not forget it is 10% of an already pretty small number.

    Should we stop Centrelink payments to those who need them because of the small percentage of cheats and bludgers?

    Seriously this whole thing makes me feel sick.

    I feel sorry for the kids being raised by parents who think that "saving" Australia from people fleeing for their lives is the right thing to do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by redlipsandpearls View Post
    I'm so confused about what I think is right


    To an extent, I agree with this decision because it might lessen the exploitation of asylum seekers by the people charging an astronomical amount for a 'ticket to freedom' and also lower the fatalities that come with the journey.


    But (and a big part of my confusion), is PNG really going to be a better place than those that they are fleeing from? Not just financially, but how will the 'locals' treat asylum seekers? Will they allow them to integrate into society?
    I don't think it will stop smugglers or the exploitation, people will still flee, get on boats they will either just be turned back when they get here or they will flee to another country which has a more humantarian view on their plight.

    PNG is in no way equipped to handle asylum seekers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by risfaerie View Post
    These are people who have been imprisoned without trial, for seeking asylum, which is not a crime. They have now discovered that all their waiting and hoping has quite possibly been in vain. I get that I am a bit of a bleeding heart on this issue, but seriously, in their position, you think you would not be angry? That you would not at the very least be tempted to protest, or riot, or vent your anger? I doubt that I personally would have the self control not to at the very least protest the issue.
    No. Violence against police and staff is not acceptable under any circumstances.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kw123 View Post
    I feel sorry for the kids being raised by parents who think that "saving" Australia from people fleeing for their lives is the right thing to do.

    Who has said that?

    I feel sorry for kids who are raised by parents who think that it is ok to assault police.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Father View Post
    No. Violence against police and staff is not acceptable under any circumstances.
    Obviously. I don't think locking people up for years on end without reason is either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by babyla View Post
    I don't think it will stop smugglers or the exploitation, people will still flee, get on boats they will either just be turned back when they get here or they will flee to another country which has a more humantarian view on their plight.

    PNG is in no way equipped to handle asylum seekers.
    I never said I thought it would stop them from getting on boats. I said maybe it would lessen the ticket price because they would be going to a less than desirable location.

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    Quote Originally Posted by redlipsandpearls View Post
    I'm so confused about what I think is right


    To an extent, I agree with this decision because it might lessen the exploitation of asylum seekers by the people charging an astronomical amount for a 'ticket to freedom' and also lower the fatalities that come with the journey.


    But (and a big part of my confusion), is PNG really going to be a better place than those that they are fleeing from? Not just financially, but how will the 'locals' treat asylum seekers? Will they allow them to integrate into society?
    Png is essentially a third world country with many social problems of its own. Sending people fleeing from violence to a country that has big problems with violence itself is madness. And I don't believe for a second that it will stop the boats, and here is why:

    It is a bandaid. A quick fix to balm the bigots and win their votes. It will not fix the root cause. It will not stop these people being persecuted in their own country. Until that is addressed- they will continue to flee.

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