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    I went to uni studying nursing and in our first year one of the girls openly shared she worked as an escort in a brothel. She stated it was to make ends meet however she earnt $250 an hour and worked Friday, Saturday and Sunday night- she claimed she was booked solid for her 6 hour shift each night. Therefore earning $4500 before tax. As an empoverished student who worked 5 nights a week in a dementia specific nursing home that was soooooo much money- I was working 36 hours a week for just over $500- however I was making ends meet and could tell anyone who asked without any shame what I did. Roll on graduation- we all got jobs in hospitals- back then the base pay rate for a grad was $16 an hour (slightly less than a check out chic). The girl who had worked as an escort lasted 2 months before she left and went back to the brothel as she felt she was worth far more than $16 an hour. I guess no point to this other than the point- if you are escorting to pay uni costs etc do you "need" $4500 a week and would you be happy graduating onto 1/5 or less of that wage once you have a degree. It's not a career I could ever do not would I be happy for my daughters to do it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VicPark View Post
    And what did you do to make ends meet? I got a job in a supermarket.
    And I relied on generous parents. My course had 40+ contact hours a week, plus after hours, weekends and holiday placements meaning I had NO time for a casual job. Not all students have the luxury of large amounts of free time and for some working a few hours a week in a high paid job is the difference between being able to study or not.

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    No. There are lots of occupations and behaviours that are shameful but I don't think prostitution is one of them.

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    I've been thinking of this since the thread started and the only way I can truly come to a conclusive answer is that if my daughter entered the sex industry, I would feel as though I didn't succeed in teaching her the value that I hold so high for my body and sex. I also tried to picture telling dh that dd works in the sex industry and I couldn't do it because that would break his heart.

    So I suppose, for me, it is shameful.

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    My views on prostitutes have certainly changed over the years. I judged them fairly harshly in my younger years.

    Is it shameful? I think that is something only a sex worker can answer.

    A lot of women working in the industry would be secretive about it, especially when being asked what they do for a living, out of fear of judgement. I guess for that reason there is some level of 'shame' involved.

    I no longer judge a woman for working in the sex industry. All of these women have their own story about why they are working in this profession. Some of their stories are very sad, others actually enjoy the line of work and the money.

    It is something I could never personally do for money - but how I feel about my own body is irrelevant. I don't understand the hatred towards them

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    Yes I do think it's shameful. Yes I do look down on people who are prostitutes and yes I do look down on people who use prostitutes. The whole idea sickens me. I would never date someone I knew used a prostitute even if I was head over heals inlove with them. I know I'll get flamed for that but it's the way I feel and I cant help it. I just find it loathsome.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VicPark View Post
    Oh come on. Hecs pays the long term uni costs. Austudy (or whetever its called now) pays the living costs. Unless you are in a really special circumstance (a kiwi living in oz) then social security is enough to survive ...unless you have really high standards.
    If this is true, why are 2/3rds of students living in poverty?

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    I see women (people in general) "prostitue" themselves on a daily basis, compromising their beliefs and morals, their self respect, letting other people destroy their self and dignity and feel they have no right to anything better.
    Being a sex worker does not mean you are compromised or need pity, I see bar workers, office staff and professionals who are compromising themselves and their inner being on a daily basis.
    The Victorian era is just ingrained in us still, being 'proper' performing to show others what they will accept instead of living to our true self. Many cultures had sex workers held in the highest esteem but after Victorian indoctrinated English culture invaded their culture, the sexual freedom, awareness and comfort was destroyed and beaten down.
    These people who due to their brow beating about sexual appetite, food appetite, everything 'animalistic' was so abnormal that they felt uncomfortable with sexual freedoms and choice,life was about restriction, control, punishment, and what other people might think of you have a lot to answer for.
    Every job has its seedy version, you could have a science degree, be an academic
    Professional selling your sole to CSG mining, selling their lies about safety, for a higher pay rate rather than working in medical research for the greater good of humanity.
    I believe sex workers are an integral and ongoing part of society and I find it offensive that people throw around moral judgements on others. This Victorian guilt trip is getting a bit old people, really think about your issue is, why is it in your head, where does income from?
    Dont assume and automatically think that prostitution is about American movie stereotypes, illegal drug use and street walking. If we think this then we also need to believe that all cars explode on impact, people reall can jump of buildings and survive, cops all eat donots and so on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by missymoo9 View Post
    I've always wondered why people would pay for sex instead of just finding someone on a dating site... a friend... etc who wants the same thing???
    I believe that men pay for sex because that's all they want - sex. They don't want to court a woman. They don't want to spend hours on end trying to meet a woman to hook up with at a nightclub. They don't want to invest emotionally. They just want to get their rocks off, and leave.

    Also, a lot of sex workers are very attractive women. For a lot of these men, it's going to be the only way they will ever experience sex with a woman who looks like a model.

    I was a little shocked recently when I found out two of DH's single friends were making occasional visits to a high-class brothel near their house in Sydney. Both of these guys are good looking and have great jobs...but they are in their late 30's and have struggled over the last few years to find love. I guess they just enjoy having a sexual encounter without having to stand around in a nightclub like a desperado trying to pull a root for the night?

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    I've never really thought of them as shameful? Would I do it ? No but there are a lot of things I wouldn't do!

    At my old office we used to rent out a brothel 2 doors up ( well we were the agents renting out the space - the tenants owned the brothel!) and the girls i met were really nice, there were 1 or 2 that used to come into the office every fortnight to pay rent , its sad how society does view them as I found if we had a new person start in the office and they took their rent for the first time they would be really nice until they found out what they did as a living and their attitudes changed immediately

    Many times when we would drive out of the back of our office in the lane way you saw some of their clients going in ( a lot at lunch time) and they varied from tradies to men in suits and most I'd say were middle aged so I do think some of those men who you can assume are married with kids or in a relationship are the ones that are shameful


 
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