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    Yep, I would be too ashamed to tell people that's what I did for a living. I think the absolute majority of people would feel the same.

    That doesn't mean the person in that position is a bad person though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jaq View Post
    Let's be honest here.

    If people find sex work shameful, it's because they find no-strings-sex shameful.

    It's because they think sex is something that should only happen between people in a relationship, or at least between two people who have just met and are exploring something that might become a relationship.
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    Gotta disagree with you there. People don't necessarily find prostitution shameful because they find no strings sex shameful. I don't have a problem with casual sex. I have a problem with women letting themselves be disrespected and treated like a commodity, like dirt. And having sex with people (big fat hairy men?) they likely don't find attractive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anjalee View Post
    Ok I'm going to go back to one example that has been brought up in this thread. It has been mentioned that some people may become a sex worker to help get themselves through Uni, and a few people have said "they should get a job at a supermarket".

    Where do you guys live? I imagine it can't be in Perth. Perth is now the 10th most expensive city in the world to live in. So lets say a student has maximum contact hours at uni, that really limits the amount of hours you can work (without never sleeping) for minimum wage doing night fill or something. Now imagine they have NO family and no support, they're renting somewhere.... the average rental in Perth is $450/week.... I'm sorry AusStudy no where nears covers even a shared rental, food, travel expenses not to mention uni costs such as books, equipment etc.
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    Rent a room not a unit. Do Uni part time. Do Uni in a cheaper location. Choose a Uni closer to home. Deal with the fact you're going to be eating 2 minute noodles for 3 years instead of lobster.

    Sorry I just don't think that in Australia someone needs to be a prostitute in order to study. The majority of students get by without needing to sell their body. If someone does feel they need to do this then I think they either just want the easy money/dont care and/or lack certain skills (planning in advance, thinking outside the box, time management ....)

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    Quote Originally Posted by VicPark View Post
    Gotta disagree with you there. People don't necessarily find prostitution shameful because they find no strings sex shameful. I don't have a problem with casual sex. I have a problem with women letting themselves be disrespected and treated like a commodity, like dirt. And having sex with people (big fat hairy men?) they likely don't find attractive.
    What about male sex workers???
    At least with sex as a transaction there are no expectations or disappointments when nothing further eventuates- in some ways it can be more honest than casual sex. How many people here have been disappointed when he/she never called like they said they would? How many have felt used by someone just out got sex who led them to think otherwise to get what they wanted? Is that any better- to let yourself be used like a commodity and disrespected on a false promise? At least the act of prostitution is upfront.

    Food for thought.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sophisto View Post
    I'm sorry to burst some people's bubble but its simply NOT the case that most men who frequent brothels are disrespectful or "use" women. It's a transaction the men are usually highly appreciative for. It is not uncommon for women to enjoy sex with clients from time to time. Female Orgasms in brothels happen!! Women do not always feel used. In fact they often feel empowered by their job and to be the ones in control.

    Men who frequent brothels are just like the men you see in your local cafe on s Saturday morning, on the tram, in your work place. The real shame is that many are married with families and you would be shocked if you knew how many "unsuspecting" men use these services. This is one of the saddest things about the industry. It makes cheating in a non emotional way quite possible. Other than these men there are lonely widows, men with disabilities, unattractive men, highly sexed men, men seeking experience, men from all cultural backgrounds, but rarely complete pigs who do to women's bodies whatever they chose. Street based sex work is a completely different story but the fact is thar the majority of workers in Australia work within a legal industry.

    I keep commenting here because I want to do my bit to break down stereo types and show some of the reality of the situation.
    Sorry but I don't think working in a brothel you're going to have an accurate picture of what the men are thinking about you. Of course they are going to be polite to your face because they don't want to get thrown out or arrested. It's what they are thinking in their minds and saying to their mates down at he pub where the truth comes out: they don't respect the prostitute, and few would take one home to meet their mum..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Meg2 View Post
    I still don't see how this can be blamed on the sex worker. There are all sorts of perfectly innocent products and services out there that people can use for immoral purposes (extreme example - you can use a hammer to cause all sorts of bodily harm). It is the person who uses them in that way who is immoral, not the supplier of the product or service.
    Its all about odds. A prostitute would have to be a real dimwit to not know that a large chunk of the time she is sleeping with a 'taken' man. Sure the man is an @rsehole... but the prostitute is knowingly complicit in cheating and the breaking up of families. Being an accessory to all this is immoral too.

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    VicPark you are so diluted about uni seriously. Do you own your own home or rent? I was doing 40 hour weeks at uni 2 hour bus rides, living with my parents and collecting disability pension. I barely got by to buy text books, pay my hecs fees and amenities fees yearly etc.. Bus fares take lunches.. Pay mum rent. I think you should stop judging so harshly.

    Youth allowance is a kick in the guts! Especially if you have to buy a laptop, print things all the time etc... You can't live in your bubble where society is perfect. Sorry!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Atropos View Post
    What about male sex workers???
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    Just as bad and the female clients just as desperate too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by monnie24 View Post
    VicPark you are so diluted about uni seriously. Do you own your own home or rent? I was doing 40 hour weeks at uni 2 hour bus rides, living with my parents and collecting disability pension. I barely got by to buy text books, pay my hecs fees and amenities fees yearly etc.. Bus fares take lunches.. Pay mum rent. I think you should stop judging so harshly.

    Youth allowance is a kick in the guts! Especially if you have to buy a laptop, print things all the time etc... You can't live in your bubble where society is perfect. Sorry!


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    Im not saying studying is easy, it's not. I'm just saying prostituting yourself to do it isn't necessary.

    Did you have to prostitute yourself to get through your studies?

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    No but I would do it if I wasn't engaged see previous post I see nothing wrong with it. Why would I want to work for such crap money, get treated like dirt anyway when you can please someone (not always sexually) I'm talking high end escort who take men out for dinner, coffee, movies or even women who are pure lonely. Newly divorced or widowed. I can see why people do it. Study 4-7 years depending what you study or earn just as much doing this!

    It is nearly the same as selling drugs.


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