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    Quote Originally Posted by loislane2010 View Post
    I havent read all the responses but i have to say. It depends WHY your doing it. If its your last resort to feed, clothe and house your children then NO. Absolutely not. I would do it in a heard beat if it meant being about to feed my kids. If its to support a drug habit then yes.
    I don't see a big difference - both situations are desperate. They are both performing sexual favours for money.

    A woman can support a drug habit by doing sexual favours, instead of to breaking into someone's poor grandma's house and stealing her precious jewellery.

    I know which act I think is more immoral.

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    After reading this thread, I have to say - I don't think sex workers are "shameful". But as I have said before I hate the objectification of women by men. I know that there are people who have lost wives to cancer etc, I am sure there are people out there that really need this service. But really, there is such an underground seedy element - I find it hard to believe that all, even 10% of people really "need" that service. A lot who frequent brothels just have no respect for women, treat them as objects etc. And that is fine, if someone wants to be a sex worker and is ok with that - that is fine. But it is NOT something I would want for my child and it is not something I personally would ever consider doing. I also don't view sex as a sacred thing between husband and wife.

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    Quote Originally Posted by beebs View Post
    After reading this thread, I have to say - I don't think sex workers are "shameful". But as I have said before I hate the objectification of women by men. I know that there are people who have lost wives to cancer etc, I am sure there are people out there that really need this service. But really, there is such an underground seedy element - I find it hard to believe that all, even 10% of people really "need" that service. A lot who frequent brothels just have no respect for women, treat them as objects etc. And that is fine, if someone wants to be a sex worker and is ok with that - that is fine. But it is NOT something I would want for my child and it is not something I personally would ever consider doing. I also don't view sex as a sacred thing between husband and wife.
    I get where you are coming from.
    I guess I see it slightly differently- having known both male and female sex workers in the past, where there is no coercion and it is an adult freely entering the industry, then they are just proving a service. Whether everyone that uses said service "needs" it is irrelevant- they want it, they pay for it. There are plenty of services out there that aren't necessarily needed.
    I've met a guy that used brothels because he didn't have the time or the inclination to have a relationship but still wanted regular sex. He wasn't disrespectful, was quite matter of fact about it. But yes, others are disrespectful, I know. I just think better regulations and standards in the industry and less shaming of sex workers might help to alleviate this.

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    It really is one of those questions that depends on your own personal feelings about s3x.

    For a person who views it as an intimate and private action that only takes place within the confines of long term relationships, I can see how it would be shameful for that individual. I don't think it is fair for that individual to think every s3x worker should be ashamed of themselves

    For a person who views it as merely a physical activity, with no strings or strong emotions attached, it would probably be less shameful.

    And this for me is why there is debate. Just because the opinions differ, does not mean we should judge the actions of others as shameful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Atropos View Post
    How do you know they have no self respect?? It may be true that some don't, but you have to own that it everyone has the same moral code that you do.
    It's fairly obvious from this thread that there is a difference of opinion but l'm just as entitled to my opinion as everyone. Just because l dont agree with the majority view it doesn't make my opinion wrong.

    I would not be happy having sex with married men for money but clearly some people here think it is ok for themselves and would be happy for their children to do this too.....and yes it comes down to differences in moral code and views on sex. I mentioned earlier that where someone feels that have no other option l can sympathize with them.

    I also have heard the sides about men with disabilities needing the service as well as men who are lonely due to losing loved ones etc, and yes l can sympathize with their scenario too.

    I also think that "shame" is up to the individual and dependent on their views on sex etc, but l am saying from my point of view if l wanted to make money by performing sexual acts l would be ashamed to admit that. If my kids chose this field l would feel saddened that l hadn't raised them to feel that they were worth more. You can still love your child unconditionally and not agree with their choice to become a sex worker. But to state that you would be happy for them to do this really confuses me.

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    I don't think it is a shameful occupation, but for sure there are a lot of less than savoury sides to it throughout the world, and within the scope of the industry.

    I have only ever known 1 sex worker, she was actually my brothers girlfriend. (He knew)

    She met him at university where they were both doing a fine arts degree.

    It was in Auckland around the time of the Americas Cup, and apparently she was being paid huge sums by visiting spectators etc as an escort. At the time, none of my family knew this, they told us she was a personal trainer! lol

    Anyway, during her work as an escort she had access to huge amounts of drugs from customers as part of the job, and at that time my brother also became a full on user, she was his supplier.

    Anyway, their relationship ended, he was hooked on hard drugs for 10 years, but is clean now thank goodness.

    So my brush with the industry is not really a positive one, I think the prevalence of drugs is possibly the most unsavoury part of it for me. In saying that, drugs are a huge problem fullstop, in society at large.

    But at the end of the day, as someone else said, if it is sex between two consenting adults, it is no-ones business but their own.

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    Quote Originally Posted by beebs View Post
    After reading this thread, I have to say - I don't think sex workers are "shameful". But as I have said before I hate the objectification of women by men. I know that there are people who have lost wives to cancer etc, I am sure there are people out there that really need this service. But really, there is such an underground seedy element - I find it hard to believe that all, even 10% of people really "need" that service. A lot who frequent brothels just have no respect for women, treat them as objects etc. And that is fine, if someone wants to be a sex worker and is ok with that - that is fine. But it is NOT something I would want for my child and it is not something I personally would ever consider doing. I also don't view sex as a sacred thing between husband and wife.
    Why should they have to "need" it?
    They should be allowed to just "want" it.

    No not shameful. Societal norms and views are shameful. It is those which attempt to bring shame to the profession.

    I don't see what is wrong with sex being a transaction if both parties consent.

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    I think it depends on why you are doing it. If you are doing it to feed and support your children then I think its better doing that than having the children go without.

    And I have to say paying for sex isn't shameful either (well depending in the situation). Think about people with mental disabilities, disfigurements, who aren't attractive or might be over weight and can not find a partner. I have heard of a lady who is a prostitute only to these sorts of men because she says they have sexual desires just like anyone else and she wants to help them fulfil that. I have a lot of respect for her because as awful as this sounds I could never have sex with someone I'm not attracted to.

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    Up until arguably second wave feminism, a marriage was just a legitimised form of prostitution. The understood contract was that the husband provided a home and food and in return the wife provided sexual services when required by her husband and by default, offspring.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ~Bec~ View Post
    Up until arguably second wave feminism, a marriage was just a legitimised form of prostitution. The understood contract was that the husband provided a home and food and in return the wife provided sexual services when required by her husband and by default, offspring.
    That attitude is not dead and buried. Unfortunately. I bore the brunt of it for years, until I left, thank GOD!!!!!


 

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