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    Hi Emski........

    Was sorry to read on the other thread that only 1 out of your 9 eggs fertilised..... Am keeping my the remaining emby will go the distance for you and become your BFP!!!
    I guess you'd have to discuss with your FS as to why the other eggs didn't fertilise....it may not be crappy eggs love????? Although you haven't been on the DHEA for the full 3 months, do you think it helped this cycle with numbers?? Let's hope it's helped to make your remaining emby a fantastic quality!!!

    Will be watching your progress on the other threads girl and I wish you the best of luck and so much ......


    p.s. Thanks for following up love....will do the same when it's my turn

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    Hi BIB, the numbers were pretty standard for me, although probably on the high side for a short cycle (only stimmed for 9 days), I have a follow up with my FS on the 12th so will seek her opinion then. Still keeping on with the DHEA and melatonin until (god forbid) I happen to get preggers. I'm hoping this is the one as its my first ivf after my hystereosopy/scratch, being gluten free ( got diagnosed as coeliac 8 weeks ago), and have just discovered I have a blood clotting disorder so am on clexane to treat that! And also treating my short luteal phase with extra progesterone support this time around.

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    Hi ladies, with the DHEA - I was prescribed to take 25mg 3 times daily, what is your dose?

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    Hi Booboo......

    I take 25 mg 3 times a day too plus 1x5mg capsule of Melatonin at night. 75mg's a day of DHEA is pretty standard. Hope this helps

    Hi Emski...... I've never done a short cycle myself....so, jury still out on whether it helped improve egg no's??? Oh, yes, the dreaded clexane injections!!! Not looking forward to having to recommence those myself when I next cycle!!! Hideous things they are!!! I always ice the area for a good 5-10mins before I inject which really helps minimise the pain and pretty much stops the bruising for me too....I assume you're now PUPO..... for you girl and here's some for you too.....Will follow your journey on the other threads and keep an eye on how you go.....
    Last edited by BlondeinBrisvegas; 05-08-2013 at 11:56. Reason: Posted wrong name...sorry Booboo

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    thanks blondeinBrisvegas that's what I am on, wanted to check, I have a friend in US who is only on 10mg a day, strange difference. So far cant say I have really noticed any side affects, hair is slightly more oily and same with face. My AMH is 6.9 so not real low but low, would you still take it? Gl emski, hope this is it for u

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    Hi Booboo......

    When I had my AMH tested a little over a year ago, it came back low too at 7.5 (but that's to be expected at my age. Am having it re-tested in Sept just to see where it's at along with a heap of other blood tests for hormone's etc in the lead up to my next cycle)

    Yep, I would still take it for sure, as it can't do any harm and it doesn't hurt to try new things out sooner rather than later in this game (although I'm hoping you get your BFP on your next cycle and can get off this rollercoaster ride asap!!)

    I agree 10mg is a strange difference??? Who knows?? I guess every FS is different as to what they prescribe drug-wise and every woman is different physically/physiologically, so maybe that could have something to do with it???

    Are you also taking Melatonin??? My side-effects are pretty minimal too, thankfully (I know I posted about them in an earlier reply) and by the time I cycle again, I will have been taking the DHEA/Melatonin (and a swag of other supplements) for over 7 months!!! At the end of the day, we just want it to work don't we???

    Will be keeping my eye out for your posts to see how you go love.... for you and to us all!!!!!!
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    I thought AMH level cannot change? I really do hope I get off this rollercoaster ride ASAP, over all this already. It is strange the difference in dose, I do know she is taking a lot of other things though, she is in the US. FS didn't mention about Melatonin to me, what dose do u take? Do you have a plan for your next cycle? keeping my for us all too gl

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    Hey Booboo......

    I thought the same about AMH, but another BH (Mrs P who is either on the AACEP,NQ or over 40's thread) who is about to start the same protocol I just did had a change in hers...it went up!!! When I quizzed her as to why, she told me her FS told her that certain factors (like when you have test done, how long it sits in the lab before it's tested etc) can influence the outcome. I'm sure there are other ladies who have experienced the same (though it's not common....usually it goes down with age understandably). I'm not expecting to be an exception to this rule and am totally prepared for it to be less than it was when I had it tested last year. I'm just wanting to keep an eye on my levels as this(amongst other things) will be a determining factor as to how many more cycles my DP and I are willing to do (time not being on my side unfortunately).

    I take 1x5mg capsule of Melatonin at night. My FS uses it in conjunction with the DHEA (and quite a few other supplements) for egg quality etc. Could be worth discussing it with your FS???? Yes, I have a plan for my next cycle. I mainly want to keep on the same protocol (which is the AACEP protocol....there's a thread that I started about it if you want to know more. Basically it's for women who are either older, poor responders or who have LH issues) but tweak a few things like for eg lowering my stimms (as I'm what they call a "normal" responder, I don't believe the high stimms that I did last cycle gave any benefit to my ovaries/eggs...could do more harm than good sometimes) and I also have some ideas I want to discuss with him about either adding/removing certain drugs and maybe doing the protocol a little differently (for eg doing high stimms for 3-4 days then "stepping down" to lower stimms for the rest of the cycle until EPU)....stuff like that

    What about you girl??? Same protocol or is your FS going try something different?? I did a long-down regulated with the vile Synarel for my first 3 cycles (cycle 3 was an epic fail with 7 of my 9 eggs immature) so decided I needed to do something different for my 4th (and also to get a second opinion from another FS who specialises in "old ducks" like me after my previous FS didn't want to do anything different protocol-wise or try anything different (like the DHEA for eg when I requested it)

    I also tried Human Growth Hormone (HGH) in my last cycle too for egg/embryo quality. It seems to either work really well for some women or makes no difference for others (such as myself, in my opinion, although one of my embryo's last cycle was graded higher than I've ever had previously....not sure if that was just a better egg/sperm combo or the HGH....) It's expensive though at $140 an injection (well, that's what QFG who I'm with charges) and you may need anything up to 10 injections. You'd have to check with PH (if you've got it) if it's covered or partially covered etc or else claim it on your tax. Am not sure if your issue is eggs/sperm or both??? For us, its MFI as it says in my signature. It's just at this age (egg-wise for me) plus using TESA'd sperm (the sperm extracted from the testes isn't fully mature) means the embryo's we get will never be "top draw" Grade 5 (5's the highest grade at my clinic...although it's possible we could get a Grade 5, it's highly improbable) embryo's which make it that much harder I feel although many, many babies are born that started out as Grade 4 or 3 embryo's (which is what we seem to produce....3's mainly which is classed as Average at my clinic). My chemical pregnancy came from a Grade 2 embryo for goodness sakes!!! (which is no doubt why it didn't go the distance, but proves that anything's possible).

    Yes, it's a hard road to travel this IVF one and I'm just about over it all myself love!!! Keeping my for us all too!!! If there's anything else I can help you with (if I can) just let me know.... to us all. Until next time................
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    Thanks for exaplaining BlondeinBrisvegas, interesting to here. We will be starting our 2nd IVF towards end of next mth, last time I was on Puregon 200 and Orgalutron, this time they are upping dose of Puregon to 250 and I will be using the synarel nasal spray, she said something about hopefully using that I will have more follies evenly spread, last time I seem to have a lot more one side than the other. Our main reason for doing IVF is dh has very low count, we did ICSI last time but none of the 4 mature eggs fertilised so scared for next time. She did say my eggs look good but who knows, not knowing If it was the eggs or sperm or both is a little frustrating. They will also add a special calcium next time to hopefully help with fertilisation issues. Sorry to hear about your chemical, that must have been heart breaking. What is your next plan?

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    Hi Booboo

    Am just sticking to the plan I outlined as per my last post. Won't know for sure what the go is protocol-wise until I see my FS at the end of Oct to discuss. Oh yes, the vile Synarel!!! God, I hate that stuff (did my first 3 cycles with it) but it will suppress your ovaries that's for sure!!! It always gave me wicked headaches, made me tired and emotional and made my hair fall out too!! I'd much rather keep on using the Lucrin from now on like I did on my last cycle. Am confident it will work just fine to suppress your ovaries which will hopefully result in a more even spread of follicles for you although its not unusual for one ovary to produce more follicles than the other. For me, it's my right ovary that does all the work, with my left one being quite lazy (maybe only producing 3 or 4 follicles)

    Are you going to go the ICSI route again for your next cycle?? One crap cycle fertilisation-wise doesn't automatically mean they all will be ok luv??? I know how you feel, because I felt that way regarding the maturity of my eggs on my last cycle (after my epic fail on Cycle 3 egg maturity wise). Was very scared the same thing was going to happen, but it didn't. Try to think positively ok???

    The addition of the calcium is very interesting. I've never heard of that before, but it does the job for you. Good to see your FS is on top of it and willing to try new things. Yes, my chemical was heartbreaking. Nothing worse that seeing the line appear on the HPT (and you start to get your hopes up) and then watch it fade away over the coming days. Although all our BFN's have been painful to bear, that first cycle was the worst by far. Absolute agony at the time and a real kick in the guts. The moral of the story is that you can never be sure of a BFP until you get your BT results (unless you have an early chemical like mine and watch it fade away before you go for your BT)

    Ok girl, am off for now. Will be eagerly watching your progress and wishing you the best of luck!!! to us all!!!!


 

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