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    oohhh January Yeah I'll be donor searching as well, do you have any definite idea of when you can head back over? We're hoping to get back in January probably around the 18th.

    Take care of yourself over the next few days

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    Hi Crystal, we thought maybe March next year. I know I will have turned 49 by then but we need some time to get over this, enjoy life again and really plan it well.

    Are you going to do an entire donor cycle again? I thought you had some in the freezer?

    As you and I both know it does not always end in a fairy tale!!! I wonder about all the ladies that have not updated their results since their trips to Cape Town. Were they successful or not? That's why I have included a kind of stats list on the roll call to try and give a balanced view of the outcomes as there are certainly no guarantees that young donor eggs will make the difference for all of us. The odds are increased somewhat but until science finds out more it is still very much a gamble.

    I even had AMH testing done which came back great. We got a lot of eggs but they were pretty shoddy apparently. It is a lottery that's for sure. Be kind to yourself. Thinking of you and your DH
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    January and crystal, I'm sorry to see your news.
    Anait, Sunny and DJ, I hope everything is going well for you.

    Apologies to anyone I've missed.
    AFM - I have my mammogram ultrasound and hysterosalpingam on Friday. If they are clear I book my Barbados transfer! I have 5 blasties waiting my attention. If all goes well, it will be a December transfer. I'm holding off to give myself time to lose more weight (not going well at the moment). I also picked that time as I may have the opportunity to refinance my home loan in November when an old bad debt falls off my credit report (lost argument with Telstra) and the 3 ladies pregnant at work should have all gone off for maternity leave by the time I come back in January. I really couldn't face coming back with a BFN and having to happily send them off.

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    Hi everyone,

    January and Crystal sorry to hear about your news. Please be kind to yourselves and take the time do something special for you. After coming back in April to a BFN, Dr H suggested speaking to my FS about my fibroids. I have now had them removed and we are booked to head back to CPT in November. cant wait the time is going so slow now that we have booked our flights.
    I'm back on the Chinese herbs, acupuncture and have now introduced Bowen Therapy ( just another thing to add to the mix!!).

    January thank you for adding me to the roll call.

    Its been fantastic to see so many people heading over to SA. Good luck to one and all that are either in CPT, in the 2ww or heading over soon. CPT is a truly wonderful place and I have to believe that magic will happen for us when we head back in November. Stay strong to one and all.

    Hugs Makey xx

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    Hi Crystal and January so sorry to read of your results , I know there is nothing I can say to take away the disappointment away, but I do know how it feels and the struggle it can be to remain positive. We have no idea of how strong we truly are, but we are, we wouldn't have made it this far if we weren't. I look forward to looking back at this chapter in life and knowing that the heartache was worth it

    I just received an email with my donors AMH result it is 15.5ng/ml and the AFC is 22 resting follicles - sadly it now concerns me that this indicates PCOS however they have not felt these results are worthy of canceling the cycle nor have they suggested PCOS they are just reducing the dose to 75 gonal F.
    Well if it doesn't rain it pours!

    I am unfamiliar with results like this and don't know if I'm being paranoid and the reality is it is always a gamble as she could have quantity and quality.

    It so hard at this stage when I'm all excited to go, all contracts are signed and everything booked to change based on things not being "perfect" or is this perfect?

    Reassurance anyone?

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    January & Crystal - I'm so very sorry to hear your sad news. My heart goes out to both of you.

    Every IVF cycle is so completely different and I think the other thing we have to remember is that the egg quality is also probably related to the kind of lifestyle our donors lived in the couple of months leading up to that egg collection (and I do not mean that in a disrespectful or negative way to our donors at all) it's just something that is completely out of our control. Regardless of this, these kind and generous women give the majority of us, our best chance at achieving a pregnancy.

    Its a long and bumpy road for each and every one of us, but we are lucky to have each other - as we all know and understand the huge leap of faith involved in doing this. With only 4 weeks to go until my own turn, I think I have to just focus on telling myself that I'm going on a wonderful holiday (which I am) and if I am lucky enough to come back pregnant it would be an absolute blessing. The rest is up to the big guy upstairs

    For my last miscarriage, I was part of an IVF forum and after I found out that I was miscarrying, I did not have the heart or will to be able to go back onto that forum and tell those women that I had not achieved a successful pregnancy. I wished that I had, because I now realise that I probably given some of them false hope that it worked for me instead of being honest and sharing my heartache with them.

    I think the other HUGE thing which plays on all our minds (well certainly mine) is that we have paid so much money to do this... we're putting all our eggs in one basket (pardon the pun). I only said to my husband tonight that if we don't get pregnant in SA, I don't know how I am going to face his parents and my parents as they will know how much money we spent on one IVF DE attempt in SA. It's completely different to doing a failed IVF cycle here and then deciding a week later that you will have another go next month. We obviously just can't! But I tell you, having all of you here to talk to will be a huge blessing to me either way. As there are thoughts and feelings I can share with all of you that I just cannot share with my best friends or family in my every day life, because they have not been able to walk in my shoes - however all of you can.

    I'm sorry for babbling on. All of this is on my mind constantly and I have almost prepared myself for another failure instead of building up my hopes for this to be THE time.

    Missleo - that is a really beautiful way to describe it for "twins to choose their parents" I felt goosebumps when I read that.

    Allie - hope all is going well with you? Re the hair dye, you could speak to your hairdressers about some of the brands who use more natural ingredients. I know that AVEDA and Kevin Murphy both fall into this category - but when it comes to bleaching your hair... bleach is bleach and if you're going to do it, probably better using a reputable brand to avoid a lack luster result? I didn't dye my hair for the first trimester for my daughter, but did after that, but only every 8 weeks. I got them to take my hair a little darker so that the re-growth was not as noticeable.

    DJ - hope that all your lovely embies continue to divide into beautiful blasts for you.

    Anait - hope that your transfer goes well.

    Lots of love and light to all of you wonderful women. xx

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    Pixel - I just read your post after taking ages to write my long winded one!

    Can you email your Dr and ask what their medical recommendation is based on any similar cases they might have dealt with like this in the past? I am sure that if they thought things looking really bad, they would have just cancelled the cycle?

    You're planning to go in September right? So you do still have some time up your sleeve (based on the donor selection obviously). How long did it take you to find a donor who was prepared to travel to Thailand? Is finding even a second donor something your agency might be able to assist you with under the circumstances?

    The other side of the equation is that in IVF cycles where lower doses of IVF drugs are given, often better quality eggs are produced? Of course that is never a given, but this is where I think you would benefit from asking the hard questions now.

    Nothing is clear cut with this process... xxx

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    Crystal and January - sorry to read your news. Big hugs.

    AFM
    Had bloods done this morning and Im still suppressed, so Im still good to go. The spotting could have been due ti the progynova or a slight irritation from the viagra pessaries which finished yesterday.

    Donor just out of theatre...18 eggs, still too earky to know how many are mature.
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    January and Crystal, I’m so sorry.

    I must add, though, that I’m so impressed by both of you – your get-back-on-the-horse attitude is really, jeez, I’m having trouble finding adjectives - humbling, inspiring, laudable, and an example to all the women who are reading these posts but haven’t yet joined the conversation.

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    Anait – hope your transfer went well today!! (It was today, right? I lose track sometimes.)

    Sunny – Great results!!!! Woohoooo!!! Glad to hear that there’s nothing to worry about re. the spotting. BTW, I now find myself staring longingly at my husband’s beer (and I was always more of a wine drinker) so he went out and bought me some non-alcoholic Grolsch. Not bad!

    Sootymay – I never noticed it on the donor agency list – maybe it’s newer? I like their rating system, if that's a concern. Our donor had some basic similarities (hair and eye colour) but she’s a good 5” shorter than I am, and I'm pretty average. It was how we seemed similar in our interests and personalities that got me – it’s interesting to see what ends up being the determining factor in choosing the donor, isn’t it? For payment, we used a cc with CFC (yay, points!!) but Nurture would only take a bank transfer, I think (boo, no points).

    Laned – ok, I have to ask, is it with an I or a small L? I’ve actually been wondering that since I started reading this thread and I’m just going to ask you. I think I may have written it both ways. Thank you for the warning on the henna – green is so not my colour so I might avoid that one. Funny way of putting it – seeing double on the scan. And thank you, Missleo, for what you wrote about twins – that was very reassuring and calmed me down. And we still don’t know, it could be worry for nothing so I’m doing my best to let the idea of it float gently in the back of my brain. I read that morning sickness can be worse when there’s twins and I’ve been feeling fine (are we sure I’m pregnant?? I’m not 100% convinced, waiting to be told it's a mistake), so I’m zenning out. When is your due date?

    Net3811 – good luck on Friday!

    Makeba – smart!! I bet getting rid of those fibroids will make a huge difference. You’re having an FET, right? Such a relief to have those frosties waiting. I’ve read studies recently that argue that FETs can yield a higher positive result than fresh transfers.

    Pixel – I had to look up what those AMH results mean (I never did the test myself – my RE doesn’t believe it’s a true indicator but I probably should have and saved myself 10s of Ks!) and the high AMH in conjunction with that AFC. May I ask who’s doing the testing? Is it CFC? I think it’s a little strange that the clinic hasn’t considered PCOS here. That said, women with pcos do get pregnant and they can produce good eggs. My cousin had terrible pcos and endo and she had 3 kids in 2 years (twins). In terms of ivf, I read that people with pcos who take metformin can see a huge improvement in the quality of their eggs – could you maybe inquire about that? It’s terrible that you now have to worry about this after going through everything to get to this point.

    Rainbowchaser – you said so well what so many of us have thought – Oh, and I’m so d*mn grey and my hair grows so fast that there’s no way not to notice the re-growth, hahaha! Thanks for the advice!

    Everyone else - thinking of you!

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