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    Quote Originally Posted by headoverfeet View Post
    I wonder why parents who use it 5 days a week work full time, maybe they want to buy a second home or go on a holiday, maybe they really don't like their children or can't handle them and use full time work to avoid looking after them, maybe they just have to work to pay the bills, maybe they work so they feel like they are using their brains or to interact/socialise or maybe sit on bubhub and facebook. Useful train of thought isn't it
    I see what you're getting at. But don't necessarily agree with the sarcasm.

    I think it's significantly more reasonable to question why a stay at home parent uses full time daycare, rather than why a working parent.

    A parent working is likely to be for specific positive reasons (paying bills, paying the mortgage, paying for a holiday, fulfilling ambition). Whereas a stay at home parent using full time care just ...does... not ...make... sense to the outsider. ('I want to be a stay at home parent... but im not looking after my kid 5 days per week'.... What the!). A stay at home parent using full time care is more likely due to some underlying negative reason (parent has mental issues etc).

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigRedV View Post
    I don't think children should be used to make money. IMO all centres should be community based and not for profit!
    I think your heart is in the right place but this is a naive concept. Childcare is a service. Make it all non for profit, you'll lose the incentive to compete and the whole system will go up the crapper.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VicPark View Post
    I think it's significantly more reasonable to question why a stay at home parent uses full time daycare, rather than why a working parent.

    A parent working is likely to be for specific positive reasons (paying bills, paying the mortgage, paying for a holiday, fulfilling ambition). Whereas a stay at home parent using full time care just ...does... not ...make... sense to the outsider. ('I want to be a stay at home parent... but im not looking after my kid 5 days per week'.... What the!). A stay at home parent using full time care is more likely due to some underlying negative reason (parent has mental issues etc).
    Not necessarily. You could argue a SAHP uses lots of DC for mental stimulation by socialising with adults, seeking hobbies, starting a WAH business. Getting much needed down time from the kids. Again, I would never use DC 5 days a week. But I don't see these reasons as any more or less important than a holiday or ambition.

    Someone put a negative spin on working as well. Not wanting to deal with the kids, not budgeting on one income properly. Now of course I don't believe thats the norm.... at all. But my point is that when you look for negative reasons you can always find them.

    I have my own personal beliefs on the subject, somewhat similar to you Vic. But as long as a child isn't abused then it's not my business. I don't see the child of a 5 day a week DC SAHM being any differently effected than the child of a working 5 day a week parent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VicPark View Post
    I think your heart is in the right place but this is a naive concept. Childcare is a service. Make it all non for profit, you'll lose the incentive to compete and the whole system will go up the crapper.
    We have a council run DC and pre school here, my kids used both. IMO they are far better than the ABC down the road, who charge double the fees and whose facilities pale in comparision to the NFP centres.

    I agree with BigredV. Childcare should not be the domain of profit. But then you know I'm an idealist lol

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    Can a stay at home parent not fulfill ambition? Or Is that only reserved for "real" jobs

    Quote Originally Posted by VicPark View Post
    I see what you're getting at. But don't necessarily agree with the sarcasm.

    I think it's significantly more reasonable to question why a stay at home parent uses full time daycare, rather than why a working parent.

    A parent working is likely to be for specific positive reasons (paying bills, paying the mortgage, paying for a holiday, fulfilling ambition). Whereas a stay at home parent using full time care just ...does... not ...make... sense to the outsider. ('I want to be a stay at home parent... but im not looking after my kid 5 days per week'.... What the!). A stay at home parent using full time care is more likely due to some underlying negative reason (parent has mental issues etc).

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    I am a little curious as I don't actually know any stay at home mums who use full time care. Is it that common? And if you do or know someone who does what are their reasons??

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    Yeah I've never met a SAHP that uses full time DC either.

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    I don't think sending your child to daycare 5 days a week is likely to do harm or anything, so that's not really an issue for me regardless of employment.

    I do, however, think sending your child to dc 5 days a week defeats the purpose of making the choice to be a sahm (this is obviously under normal circumstances). No one needs the full day, every day, to tidy their house and run errands. I also think that taking up a full time place just so you can have free time is a waste; other people may need that spot.

    Dh & I made the decision that I would stay at home because I think it's important to be there in the first years... Isn't that along the lines of why most people decide to stay at home rather than working?

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    This is becoming a really bizarre discussion. I mean really, how many people work for fun? Sure, many people get a lot of satisfaction from their jobs, but I'd be willing to bet that for the vast majority the main incentive is financial, not because it is such a enjoyable way to spend a day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by beebs View Post
    Can a stay at home parent not fulfill ambition? Or Is that only reserved for "real" jobs
    Of course they can. But one would question what the ambition is if they put their kids in care 5 days per week..

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