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    Just looking at the bb page on the human services website.
    from the website
    If your child was born or adopted before 1 July 2013, Baby Bonus is $5,000.
    If your child was born or adopted on or after 1 July 2013 (or you became eligible for Baby Bonus on or after 1 July 2013), Baby Bonus is either $5,000 or $3,000 depending on your situation.
    You can get the $5,000 payment if your child is the first child you or your partner have given birth to (excluding stillbirth), adopted, or had entrusted to your care within 26 weeks of birth. Otherwise, you can get the $3,000 payment.
    Baby Bonus is not taxable.

    silly question, but does this include Dp's daughter? He hasn't given birth to her, but im just not sure if this would include her and mean we would get $3000 instead of $5000
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    Why can't both sides just accept that we both do valid jobs, and that PPL is around 6-7k BB is 1-3k and everyone is winning? There is a significant bonus to working up to 6 times the amount - and while it's taxable, a woman that isn't working for 6-12 months clearly will pay little to no tax??

    Why does it always have to be this fight to kick the other down? like the comments in here that SAHM's should get no assistance and pay for their babies themselves? right, got it, while 2 income families are happily accepting thousands in assistance bc they are 'better' rather than paying for their babies themselves? It serves no purpose but to cause division.

    I have never seen one SAHM either here on IRL that begrudges PPL. Yet the constant bagging, whinging about a few k BB, how we are lazy, bad role models, not contributing is just constant. Quite frankly I'm sick of it. If you want to work, you are getting heaps more in govt assistance for doing that. Just let it go

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    I feel like everyone who has a baby deserves a bit of help (my opinion) however I understand why it can't work this way because we need everyone working. I think the fact that there are so many gazillions wahm businesses shows that women with babies do want to work, they just want to stay with their babies too, it's a shame in our society these options are generally incompatible ....*tangent*

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    Quote Originally Posted by delirium View Post
    Why can't both sides just accept that we both do valid jobs, and that PPL is around 6-7k BB is 1-3k and everyone is winning? There is a significant bonus to working up to 6 times the amount - and while it's taxable, a woman that isn't working for 6-12 months clearly will pay little to no tax??

    Why does it always have to be this fight to kick the other down? like the comments in here that SAHM's should get no assistance and pay for their babies themselves? right, got it, while 2 income families are happily accepting thousands in assistance bc they are 'better' rather than paying for their babies themselves? It serves no purpose but to cause division.

    I have never seen one SAHM either here on IRL that begrudges PPL. Yet the constant bagging, whinging about a few k BB, how we are lazy, bad role models, not contributing is just constant. Quite frankly I'm sick of it. If you want to work, you are getting heaps more in govt assistance for doing that. Just let it go <img src="images/smilies/freakingout.gif" border="0" alt="" title="freakingout" smilieid="159" class="inlineimg"
    I just want to check you didn't think this is what I was saying?? Not saying SAHM mums should get nothing. Not at all! I was just talking about the OP which talked about people thinking that the BB should be the same amount as the PPL.

    Certainly don't think SAHMs are lazy or anything! For me personally I found it way too hard and really enjoy the three days that I work as I do get a break from DS!

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    (Also delirium I don't understand how you're getting more govt assistance if you work)

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    Quote Originally Posted by kw123 View Post
    I just want to check you didn't think this is what I was saying?? Not saying SAHM mums should get nothing. Not at all! I was just talking about the OP which talked about people thinking that the BB should be the same amount as the PPL.

    Certainly don't think SAHMs are lazy or anything! For me personally I found it way too hard and really enjoy the three days that I work as I do get a break from DS!
    No not at all, I was referring to Cassieh's comments.... and the heaps of others in the same vein on BH. As of a week I'm doing my 2nd degree. I have worked since my kids are born. My role matters. As I said, I'm more than ok with the difference in payments between working mums and SAHM. While my DH pays tax, I don't. Totally get that a working mum should get more. My gripe isn't over the difference in assistance, it's the attitude towards SAHM's.

    20 years ago, working mums copped the brunt of a lot of criticism, unfairly so. But now the pendulum has swung the other way. Just having a vent bc I'm tried of the constant b*tching about SAHMs on here lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chew the Mintie View Post
    (Also delirium I don't understand how you're getting more govt assistance if you work)
    Well they get substantially more with PPL, bc they aren't working they usually get FTB as well unless hubby earns a heap. IRL I've found a lot of working mothers only infact work a shift or 2 a week, get FTB just like I do... then get the 7k PPL as well. I know someone whose family is on 95% govt payments while she works a shift a week. She gets PPP. Then she has a baby every 18 months. She is actually getting more govt assistance than we do, then gets 6-7 times more money for the baby. Now I know not every case is like that. But lots are.
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    Oh.

    I actually didn't get either .... Because I couldn't stop working, I wasn't entitled to ppl.

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    Quote Originally Posted by delirium View Post
    No not at all, I was referring to Cassieh's comments.... and the heaps of others in the same vein on BH. As of a week I'm doing my 2nd degree. I have worked since my kids are born. My role matters. As I said, I'm more than ok with the difference in payments between working mums and SAHM. While my DH pays tax, I don't. Totally get that a working mum should get more. My gripe isn't over the difference in assistance, it's the attitude towards SAHM's.

    20 years ago, working mums copped the brunt of a lot of criticism, unfairly so. But now the pendulum has swung the other way. Just having a vent bc I'm tried of the constant b*tching about SAHMs on here lol
    I don't have anything against SAHMS.. But I don't think people should depend on the government to support their family. The cost of a baby extends more than the PPL or BB. So my opinion stands.

    I understand not all babies are planned... My son wasn't planned. But we started gathering things from 12 weeks to ensure we had everything for when my son came.

    I personally think if families are struggling, they shouldn't be seeking more assistance from the government.. They should be seeking employment.

    I think it's incredibly frustrating that a mother I know has 3 kids that are all at school, yet she still hasn't got a job... I can understand mothers wanting to be at home with their kids, but when does it end??? Surely once the kids are at school (and not even at home) then that should be a time when the mum seeks at least part time employment??

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    I think both SAHM and working mums get criticised. Seems that you can't get it right either way!!

    I'm going back to work when bub is 6 mth old and got a few nasty comments from colleagues, "friends", and mums in my parents group.
    Apparently I'm all after the $$$ and why did I bother having a baby if its to abandon him to strangers...

    Anyway, sorry for the digression, just wanted to point out that sadly every one get criticised

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