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    The idea of quitting my job, staying at home and then returning to the workforce trying to find flexible hours makes me feel nervous. It would be extremely hard.

    DP and I have been with the same company for a while now and luckily don't need to stress about that. We know we could take a year off and then come back part time without any issues. Being established in a role the accommodates this was extremely important to us before even considering TTC.

    We have about 6 staff members in my area alone that work PT. Most work 4 hours (10am -2pm) because their little ones are at school. It's works well for the business and for them and they are on a $30k salary (average). Not bad for part-time!

    If they decided to be at home instead they would have a lot less - but why judge them for making that choice? There's not enough of these flexible jobs to go around so maybe it's a good thing that some people are prepared to suck it up and stay at home?


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    I'm sorry? How was I making a mockery of your argument?

    I disagreed with it, yes. Mocked it? No.

    I think it's very relevant to this discussion to include specific figures.

    As far as I was aware the discussion hadn't moved beyond the basic SAHM v WM and the figures involved in that. If you want to introduce disability funding then that completely changes things. I would still argue though, that if I was a Federal Treasurer looking to cut back on expenses in order to afford any sort of social improvement I wouldn't be looking at the $5k a year from SAHMs instead of the $18k tax free threshold for the 11 million+ workers.

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    From a personal perspective, $18k tax free is great. From a national financial perspective, it's a really dumb choice to make.

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    The $18k tax free threshold is actually good for people who want to work casual hours to earn some extra cash. I used to work casual hours at school and used to earn over $6k. So if say SAHP wants to work night shift filling shelves at Coles they aren't having a lot of their earnings chewed into by tax.

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    Oh absolutely. I'm not suggesting for a second the increased tax free threshold is a bad thing. Just using it as a point of comparison.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NancyBlackett View Post
    Oh absolutely. I'm not suggesting for a second the increased tax free threshold is a bad thing. Just using it as a point of comparison.
    Its good that you brought it up as a comparison. You can see from the previous few posts that the tax free threshold serves a useful purpose for people who do want to work part time, such as parents with young kids. As I said previously, government subsidies and tax breaks should serve a useful purpose. I'm not sure what purpose benefits that are directed specifically to SAHPs would provide.

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    The only payment that is directed specifically to SAHP's are SSP or PPP. They are a low income payment like a childless person would get Newstart. They exist to ensure people with children can live. So it has a purpose. It's unrealistic to expect a mother who has seperated from her partner and has 3 small kids to look for work given their wage may well not even cover CC for 3 kids....

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    Quote Originally Posted by delirium View Post
    The only payment that is directed specifically to SAHP's are SSP or PPP. They are a low income payment like a childless person would get Newstart. They exist to ensure people with children can live. So it has a purpose. It's unrealistic to expect a mother who has seperated from her partner and has 3 small kids to look for work given their wage may well not even cover CC for 3 kids....
    Yes, I absolutely agree that it is unrealistic to expect someone in that situation to look for work, and I'm glad that there are government supports in place for that situation.
    But I don't think it is unrealistic for someone with a partner and school age children to look for part time work if their family needs the extra money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Meg2 View Post
    Its good that you brought it up as a comparison. You can see from the previous few posts that the tax free threshold serves a useful purpose for people who do want to work part time, such as parents with young kids. As I said previously, government subsidies and tax breaks should serve a useful purpose. I'm not sure what purpose benefits that are directed specifically to SAHPs would provide.
    The comparison wasn't about the relative benefit to individuals, it was about the cost to the Budget.

    Family tax payments are given to anyone who is eligible - working or not. As I mentioned earlier, they are essentially a tax return received throughout the year instead of families having to wait until the end of the financial year.

    They are based on family income, not individual income. If one family earns $80k with both parents working and another family earns $80k with one parent working, why should the second family not be entitled to the same amount of tax assistance as the first family? Because the argument that the first family deserve it more because they both pay tax doesn't really cut it when you compare the amount of tax paid by both families.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Meg2 View Post
    I'm not sure what purpose benefits that are directed specifically to SAHPs would provide.
    Taking the burden off childcare centres? It is hard enough to get a place if someone desperately needs one. Where I used to live the waiting list was 3 and a half years. Totally unacceptable - especially for those that had to return to work. Until there are far more childcare centres, with no waiting lists that are far more affordable. I would have thought it would be in everyones best interests that some people don't want to put their kids in and take up valuable spaces.


 

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