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    For starters, please don't assume everybody has the care of their children subsidized. Some working parents receive very little or no child. We are middle income earners receive almost nothing back. But I am certainly not complaining nor do I EXPECT to receive this benefit. It's wonderful that we live in a country that supports its people so well (and it really does) but this entitled attitude some people have is what annoys me. By the way, everybody is entitled to an opinion and there is no need for the 'defensiveness' that seems to come about when there are opinions that go against the grain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KassMeow View Post
    As a working mum who pays taxes I sure am going to accept the cheaper daycare so I can actually go to work and support my family. So don't even try to debate me on that one. I don't get Ftb a or b or rent assistance or whatever else everyone else seems to get. I could be a sahm and get way more from the government but hey, that's not who I am.
    I don't think she was saying you shouldn't accept cheaper daycare, more so just pointing out the inconsistencies in begrudging how others receive benefits.

    Whilst you don't receive FTB or rent assistance etc, others don't receive rebates on childcare. So there are different ways of receiving benefits. I for one would be lost without my child care rebate as I would be working for a pittance without it. But I understand that SAHMs receive assistance at a much lower rate than my earning capacity so I don't hold that against them either. I could do the same but I would rather work and have more money. Does that make sense? I wouldn't take it too personally - some people on here just like you to see the broader picture. I think that can only be a good thing

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    Quote Originally Posted by MonsterMoosMum View Post
    With the whole waah my tax money's funding it. My DH pays in my mind alot of tax but you don't hear me having a whinge about who gets what. I'm sure there are bigger problems we could all be investing our time and energy on.


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    I am not saying this at all (nor have I once mentioned my taxes funding parenting payments). That is not the point (to me anyway). I'm am genuinely interested in why people think SAHM's should receive payments from the government once there children have entered school??

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    Quote Originally Posted by redlipsandpearls View Post
    If you're partnered, once your youngest turns 6 you receive the same as working mums; school kids bonus, ftb a & b and possibly others that I'm forgetting. The same applies for a single parent once their youngest turns 8.

    You may also be eligible for newstart if you are looking for work and are deemed eligible.

    Usually at this point the only people able to be sahms are those that are funded by their partners or those that live in absolute poverty.
    OK, so we've established that SAHM don't actually get any more government assistance than working families with a similar income (they can only claim unemployment benefits the same as any other unemployed person).

    Given that the op was questioning why some SAHPs feel that they should be entitled to at least as much government assistance as working parents, can I ask if any SAHMs here actually feel that way. Do you think the amount you recieve from the government is unfair compared to what working parents get?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Star Light View Post
    I am not saying this at all (nor have I once mentioned my taxes funding parenting payments). That is not the point (to me anyway). I'm am genuinely interested in why people think SAHM's should receive payments from the government once there children have entered school??
    My comment wasn't directed at you.
    They would get FTB cause well even though kids are at school they are in their care that's a given but other payment ssuch and new start and others are regulated you can't just get them for example new start you have to be actively looking for work you have to report in every fortnight prove you have applied for jobs etc etc.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Meg2 View Post

    Given that the op was questioning why some SAHPs feel that they should be entitled to at least as much government assistance as working parents, can I ask if any SAHMs here actually feel that way. Do you think the amount you recieve from the government is unfair compared to what working parents get?
    I am a SAHM. I am entitled to nothing, no FTB, no CCB, no rent assistance etc. Do I think I should be entitled to more? Nope. Im not entitled to it because DH's income is over the threshhold.

    Do I begrudge working parents getting assistance in the form of CCR, PPL etc? No way.

    Do I begrudge SAHM's whose partner earns less than mine, getting more assistance? Not at all. That's what its there for. To assist people.

    I will never understand why some people get so up in arms about it. How does how much assistance someone else gets, affect you? This is one reason why I don't share information about our financial situation with our friends or family - because its no ones business but our own


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    Quote Originally Posted by peanutmonkey View Post
    I am a SAHM. I am entitled to nothing, no FTB, no CCB, no rent assistance etc. Do I think I should be entitled to more? Nope. Im not entitled to it because DH's income is over the threshhold.

    Do I begrudge working parents getting assistance in the form of CCR, PPL etc? No way.

    Do I begrudge SAHM's whose partner earns less than mine, getting more assistance? Not at all. That's what its there for. To assist people.

    I will never understand why some people get so up in arms about it. How does how much assistance someone else gets, affect you? This is one reason why I don't share information about our financial situation with our friends or family - because its no ones business but our own


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    Quote Originally Posted by chickpea View Post
    Just to respond to this, think about the female dominated jobs....nursing, teaching, allied health, child care, aged/disability care........this is why we need child care assistance, these middle paying jobs that do not pay enough to pay full child care fees that are female dominated, we need these working parents to keep working!
    Yay!! Totally agree! Also think we need people who are willing to stay home and volunteer time at school etc. There really needs to be some of both!!!


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    I think income should be based purely on family income for all aspects rather than single income. Partner A taxable income + Patner B taxable income - # of Dependents = family taxable income. Then tax worked out on this amount and proportioned out to each partner. That way, government support could be proportioned to lower income families, single income families and so on.

    On a side note- I got taxed $11,000 last year!

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    Quote Originally Posted by rainbowbabe View Post
    Yay!! Totally agree! Also think we need people who are willing to stay home and volunteer time at school etc. There really needs to be some of both!!!
    Perhaps the government should pay people to work in school canteens and help out at school events (surely these roles are important enough to be funded). It seems like that move alone would instantly put a lot of SAHMs into the catagory of 'working mums'.

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