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    I really don't think she is saying this of ALL SAHM's at all (please correct me if i'm wrong Cassieh). More just those who seem to have this underlying attitude of "why would I possibly work when I can get more money from the government".

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    Quote Originally Posted by cassieh View Post
    Hahahahahahahahaha. Oh god, don't be so ridiculous. I'm not bothering to respond anymore as you obviously only read what you want to read. This whole thread is about SAHMS expecting more money than people that work.

    And the reality is, they shouldn't. Self funded SAHMS I have no problem with. But no, I don't think the government should support SAHMS for the rest of their life so they can volunteer at tuck shop. End of story. I won't be responding again.
    No, I've read what you posted. Many others obviously read it the same way.

    You have gone further than just stating whether SAHMs should receive the same PPL as working mums. You can't go on like you do and expect no one to respond.

    With that mindset, don't ever allow your child to order from the canteen; don't ever allow your child to go on an excursion or participate in a school sporting event that has parent helpers; don't ever let your child organise an after school play date because their friend's Mum can actually be there to host it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Star Light View Post
    I really don't think she is saying this of ALL SAHM's at all (please correct me if i'm wrong Cassieh). More just those who seem to have this underlying attitude of "why would I possibly work when I can get more money from the government".
    No, she said that every sahm she knows is doing the wrong thing.

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    I'm not sure what other public schools are like, but my daughter's primary school pretty much relies on parent volunteers. They're an important part of the reading program in kindergarten so the kids can have one-on-one reading time at school (especially important for kids whose parents don't read to them at all at home).

    My experience IRL has been that there's actually quite a bit of mutual respect between working parents and sahm parents, and those who are unable to help (such as myself) due to work or study, very much appreciate parents who can and do volunteer.

    I haven't heard any sahm/working mums complaining about the amount they get from the government either, but it hasn't really come up in conversation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cassieh View Post
    Yes I do... And I get annoyed with parents who CAN'T afford it. I don't care if parents make sacrifices (hubby working away, moving for work, etc) to supplement the lost income & have the ability to be a sahm.... Realistically, my partner earns more than enough for me to stay at home & we aren't entitled to anything from the government.. And if I stayed at home that would be my choice.. But I think once a child is at school & is past the point of needing someone to look after them all day.. I don't think it's completely outrageous & unbelievable to expect a sahm to seek employment if she can...

    I really hate the attitude that oh why would I work when the government pays me just as much.

    Maybe it's just that every single stay at home mum I know has left me with an incredibly bad taste in my mouth.

    1. Has her child only 50% off the time, always whinging about not having any money (no reason why she can't find a job - when she only has her son 50% off the time).. Yet instead she spends that time getting stoned & drinking. Oh, and she also gets stoned while she's at home with her son all day... So I'm paying for her to sit at home with her son while she's stoned. Not productive.

    2. I have previously spoken about. All kids are in school, she constantly whiners about not being able to pay her bills, yet she's always got her nails done, new clothes, and goes out for dinner 2-3 times a week. She also talks to me about how her children have lots of learning difficulties.. Yet she's more concerned about finding a new boyfriend to make her feel good about herself then spending time helping her kids.

    3. Is a sahm who also never has any money. Yet they both smoke, drink & take drugs. Constantly asking to borrow money & always expecting us to shout them every time we go somewhere.

    I have absolutely nothing against SAHMS if you can afford to do so, and you aren't just completely rorting this system..

    To be fair, I apologize for some of my comments... But with my experiences of sahm can you really blame me?
    I am blown away that there are people who still think this way.

    Firstly let me add the disclaimer that I am a single working parent who earns too much to get any money from the pension but I do receive FTB A & B and I also received the baby bonus for my DS1 (was still married and worked full time up until I had him) and I then received PPL for my DS2. I also was a SAHM for a year after each child funded by my work maternity leave and my (at the time) husband's income. So this reply is coming from a person who has not survived solely on government payments.

    But it seems perhaps Cassieh that you are a little high up there on your horse. A monkey's uncle knows that the examples of SAHM's that you've based your opinion on is a very select group that forms a minority of the collective that you are bashing.

    Of course there are those who rort the system - they are not ripping you off though... I took the liberty of highlighting that part of your reply... Because let's face it YOU don't pay for her to do that. If that were the case you'd be an extremely generous 'non' friend paying for her to live that way huh? Saying YOU are paying for SAHMs is no different to a tax paying person without children being horrified at 'their' money paying for a working mum to take leave with the PPL. Unless you are actually handing over cash to this mother, then all you are doing is paying your taxes. Just like me - sorry if I just bursted some kind of bubble you had there thinking you were paying for all these women receiving payments.

    You are absolutely entitled to your opinion but you do realise that you are ill informed I hope. The amazing $6000 tax return of a single parent without an income is about as realistic as my imaginary boyfriend. I like to 'think' it's going to happen - but I'm afraid it's just not reality.

    Everyone has the option to be a SAHM funded by the government (unless their family income prohibits it) but honestly I take my hat off to those who can make it work. Because even as a single parent who would be entitled to higher payments for that reason I choose to work because quite simply I like to have extra money in the bank.

    I wouldn't dare judge a SAHM for making a lifestyle decision that best suits her family - just as I wouldn't acknowledge any judgment cast upon me as a working mother making a lifestyle that best suits my family. No matter how well you think you know the ins and outs of someone's finances - unless you are that person (or have control over their finances) then you only know what you've been told and I think it's fair to say the information you've been filtered is not really a holistic view.

    I think you have taken out your anger towards people you know in real life on some undeserving SAHMs on here and I think it very unfair for you to base opinions on a broad range of circumstances on a the very minute list of cases you've pointed out.

    Sorry SAHMs if you've been offended and delirium please don't take the views of other working mum's as a pack mentality. I for one don't think in that way. Not in the slightest.

    But in answer to your question OP yes I do think it is fair that those earning an income are supplemented at a higher rate while others still receive additional benefits that working mothers are not entitled to due to said income.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cassieh View Post
    Hahahahahahahahaha. Oh god, don't be so ridiculous. I'm not bothering to respond anymore as you obviously only read what you want to read. This whole thread is about SAHMS expecting more money than people that work.

    And the reality is, they shouldn't. Self funded SAHMS I have no problem with. But no, I don't think the government should support SAHMS for the rest of their life so they can volunteer at tuck shop. End of story. I won't be responding again.
    I just want to chime in with my support. As a working mother the only government help I get is with child care. I work 4 days a week and those days end up being around 11 hrs away from home with my travel. I leave at 5am and don't see my son from when I put him to sleep at 7pm until 3:30-4pm the next day. I do pretty much all of the housework/cooking/chores etc and I pretty much get stuff all time to do things I'd like to do. I work hard and at the end of the day don't have much money to show for it nor do I have endless time to devote to my son. What annoys me about some sahm in certain situations is that they get to spend 24/7 with their kids and house and get all kinds of help from the government (tax payers). If ppl want to be sahm mums that's fine, but why should the tax payers fund it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by KassMeow View Post
    I just want to chime in with my support. As a working mother the only government help I get is with child care. I work 4 days a week and those days end up being around 11 hrs away from home with my travel. I leave at 5am and don't see my son from when I put him to sleep at 7pm until 3:30-4pm the next day. I do pretty much all of the housework/cooking/chores etc and I pretty much get stuff all time to do things I'd like to do. I work hard and at the end of the day don't have much money to show for it nor do I have endless time to devote to my son. What annoys me about some sahm in certain situations is that they get to spend 24/7 with their kids and house and get all kinds of help from the government (tax payers). If ppl want to be sahm mums that's fine, but why should the tax payers fund it?
    If you're thinking that way, why should the government help with childcare fees because you choose to send your child there?

    I'm not against childcare assistance, just people that are okay to receive something for themselves but not others.

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    What type of payments do SAHM's actually receive once their children have entered school? Could anyone enlighten me?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Star Light View Post
    What type of payments do SAHM's actually receive once their children have entered school? Could anyone enlighten me?
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    Quote Originally Posted by KassMeow View Post
    I just want to chime in with my support. As a working mother the only government help I get is with child care. I work 4 days a week and those days end up being around 11 hrs away from home with my travel. I leave at 5am and don't see my son from when I put him to sleep at 7pm until 3:30-4pm the next day. I do pretty much all of the housework/cooking/chores etc and I pretty much get stuff all time to do things I'd like to do. I work hard and at the end of the day don't have much money to show for it nor do I have endless time to devote to my son. What annoys me about some sahm in certain situations is that they get to spend 24/7 with their kids and house and get all kinds of help from the government (tax payers). If ppl want to be sahm mums that's fine, but why should the tax payers fund it?
    I'm sorry but I too am struggling to understand why a SAHM should receive government payments once their kids have started school. To be clear, I totally understand the decision to stay at home and I would absolutely LOVE to (but we are not in a position to do so). But why should this be government funded? So there is someone to man the tuckshop and supervise at school excursions??


 

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