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    I can see both sides of what u are talking about and I guess it's better than trafficking and prostitution which a lot of the time is the alternative. I will say that after reading this post I will think about what I will buy in future and I think there are many benefits of buying what you can secondhand. If you look at the environmental factors this is also a huge issue. It really makes me think we have so much to be greatful for!!

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    I am happy to buy clothes made in Bangladesh if I know the workers are paid enough and have adequate housing. That is far from the case currently. There was a great article I read this week (which I can't find now of course!) going over the whole issue and the summary was that we as the consumers need to accept higher prices and that the wages/conditions in Bangladesh need to improve a lot.

    Remember though that there are sweat shops in Australia too and they may source fabric from overseas made in bad factories too.

    So, I would push for more transparency in terms of the place where the fabric is sourced and wear the clothes are made and if the conditions are ok. I would be happy to pay more (but not $85 for a t-shirt) if I knew this. But, currently it's impossible to know much about the clothes you buy whether from an expensive shop or a cheap/chain store.

    I do think that buying 2nd hand (or giving your stuff to friends/family to stop them buying it) and buying the minimum number of clothes is good for the environment and good ethically (in terms of avoiding cheap labour situations). It's all well & good to buy 2nd hand for younger kids (especially under size 1), but I find it increasingly difficult as my ds gets older (he's going into size 8 now).

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    Mim1 I agree with you on the need for transparency.
    I also think society today doesn't value what they own as much because its so cheap some places it's almost a disposable way of life. When I was younger we owned a lot less clothes and stuff in general but what we did have was of higher quality and we looked after it better. I am guilty myself if buying my kids way too many clothes in which some of was worn only a couple of times. I never used to repair anything but just chuck it out and replace it with something new. It may be slightly off subject but I think if we went back to having less stuff there wouldn't be such a high demand for this cheap mass produced clothing therefore reducing the need for these factories and in turn lowering the impact on the environment.

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    There was a story on the Bangladesh clothing industry on 60 minutes a month or so back. It was rather crap. A lot of blowing hot air and not one bit of substantial evidence/allegation of how local laws were being broken or workers were being exploited.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jenga View Post
    How do we know though? Some more expensive brands are also made in sweat shops so you can't just look at price?
    Second this. My sister is design assistant for a clothing designer/company in Sydney whose, for example, standard black pants retail for $120. My sister has openly discussed their use of sweat shops with me. They employ people in Aust also who are paid stuff all as well.

    My mum also used to sew for 'surf brand' starlet (i don't think it exists anymore) and they used sweat shops too then sold their skirts etc for $80+. Its so wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zombie_eyes View Post
    I recently watched something that showed kmart clothes being made in India?? (Dont quote me) but the workers were miserable, however said if people dont by the stuff then they lose their job.

    So what really is the answer?


    $60 a month (their wages) is absolutely horrifying. But $0 is so much worse






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    This is exactly what I was thinking. Although they work in deplorable conditions for poor pay, I'm sure they are working there because there are NO other job options so boycotting their industry is just going to make things worse.
    I don't know what the answer is

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    I don't buy Big W $3 shirts because they are cheap and nasty cr@pola.

    But yes I certainly would like to purchase items according to the conditions they are made, though as PP said how can you be sure that the $3 shirt isn't made in the same place as the $50 shirt.

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    I would love to see a change to total transparency, in the 4corners report all of the named retailers denied having they're clothes made there or refused to allow the cameras into the factories they did use.
    It's not just about well at least they have a job, recently a building housing these factories collapsed and killed many and left even more as amputees, or seriously injured. Mostly women, this is in a country with NO welfare, and incredible poverty. Most of these women were working to support their family and now many will never be able to work again.
    The building collapsed because the owner added 3 storeys more than they were meant to, and changed the use of the building so the foundations could not hold the weight of the heavy machinery and extras floors. The safety officer of this building said not one company asked to see documents stating the buildings safety.

    I too am happy to buy clothes made in Bangladesh or anywhere else for that matter (I shop at Oxfam a bit and love that its made all over the world!) as long as we are trying to help that country out of poverty by bettering safety standards, working conditions and paying meaningful wages!

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    I have heard of iPhone apps with which you can scan barcodes, and they can check out the companies that manufacture a product, and see if they are ethical, or are involved in practices you have chosen to boycott.

    Called "Buycott", I've not used it myself (not having an iPhone), but it sounds interesting, and there must be more apps like that around, surely??

    Lots of people seem to use them to check for companies that support GM free practises etc.

    ETA - Oxfam is awesome!! They have heaps of great projects to donate towards as well
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    I just downloaded the app, I'm going to go through the campaigns and scan random things in my house!

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