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    Quote Originally Posted by Cue View Post
    Had the BT this morning and it's as expected, especially now that AF has well and truly arrived. There was a very low level but they wouldn't consider it positive. It's possible it started to implant but wasn't a sticky one this time. I'm doing a repeat on Wednesday (when I was originally supposed to have the BT) just to make sure levels go back to baseline.

    Overall I feel sad and disappointed but it was our first cycle so we're just looking at it as a bit of a test run. We know I can produce the eggs, we know that we can achieve fertilization with PICSI, we know we can get a blasty to transfer stage and the hint of HCG suggests we can almost achieve implantation. So despite the end result we need to be happy with how far we got.

    Good luck to everyone still doing their cycle, I hope to see some good news! If not, I might see you in the Aug/Sept thread.
    Im so sorry Cue I think its great you can find the positives out of such a crappy situation, I think the most important thing for us all is to stay strong and positive..even if it is so hard to do. we all get that BFP we are searching for in August...big hugs to you

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    Orchids.... well, it seems like you don't really have anu "issues", so you seem like you're very close. I'm sure it's going to work on the next go for you.

    AFM.... Our 4 little embies are still alive and kicking at day 3. Two are perfectly on track at 8 cells, one is OK at 6 cells, and one is being slow at 5 cells. All 4 were graded A, meaning that there's little fragmentation, so that's good news. We've had a couple get to day 3 before, but it's getting past to day 5 that is the problem, but the scientist said that seems to be many embryos problems. Anyhow, it's looking really good, so transfer is set for Monday morning. I think it will be a long 2 day wait til then :-))

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    Quote Originally Posted by Orchids View Post
    I'm feeling really lost and confused right now. Finding out about a BFN is just heart breaking.

    To make matters worse, our FS didn't even call to convey the news yesterday, rather the nurses did. Is this the norm? After each embryo transfer (we have done 2 now) there is never a consultation/ face to face discussion, just a brief conversation over the phone - is this the norm?

    So I called our FS today and asked about the next plan of action and asked if we would do anything differently the next time. I was told that "these are very early days" and that only after using all embryos from four stimulated cycles would they begin to do other investigations because there are no alarm bells going off at the moment. That really shocked me, i almost thought i heard incorrectly! Thats seems like an awful lot of BFNs before looking into what could be influencing continuous negatives. Does that seem normal???

    I know there are stats out there based on your age about your chances of achieving a live birth and asked my FS what this was for me and they pretty much replied "its a matter of crossing your fingers". That gave me no comfort at all (esp just finding out we had a bfn yesterday!!) and left me speechless!! Seriously, am I over reacting??! I want your honest opinions here ladies...please

    After discussing things with the expert in all this I expected to feel a little more confident about embarking on another FET or potentially a stiumulated cycle but instead feel utterly and completely lost
    Hi Orchids,
    Sorry you are feeling so down. I also didn't hear from my FS just the nurses in the clinic after my BFN so just asked them what the next step was and they said I could do a back to back FET.
    I also got the 'talk' from the FS before i started, about the chances of a live birth at my age (44) which he said was practically nil and if it wasn't for my fiancé saying he was still happy to give it a try, I was almost ready to walk out without starting.
    I think they are just brutally honest and I guess they feel they have to be because there are no guarantees. Still doesn't help though.
    Big hugs to you. X

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    Quote Originally Posted by MGC Bertie View Post
    AFM.... Our 4 little embies are still alive and kicking at day 3. Two are perfectly on track at 8 cells, one is OK at 6 cells, and one is being slow at 5 cells. All 4 were graded A, meaning that there's little fragmentation, so that's good news. We've had a couple get to day 3 before, but it's getting past to day 5 that is the problem, but the scientist said that seems to be many embryos problems. Anyhow, it's looking really good, so transfer is set for Monday morning. I think it will be a long 2 day wait til then :-))
    Woohoo for Monday transfers!! Mine is Monday too. Hope your little embies keep growing!

    Cue Im so sorry hun I hope we are as positive as you are after our first BFN. I that you have taken the best of this and moved forward.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wishnhope View Post
    Leash thats excellent news!! 7 embies!!! When is your ET?

    7liha Good Luck with your injections, what are you taking? And they do get easier!!

    MCG Bertie Thanks for the well wishes, Im fairly bloated and feeling quite uncomfortable but no pain thankfully. Hopefully this feeling will prepare me for pregnancy!!
    thank Wishnhope!
    So they've put me on Puregon at 250 units a day .

    I don't know if thats a lot or a little? I dont have much experience with this.
    Im wondering who creates the threads and does anyone know if there will be a july august thread? I think I may have to jump into that one...

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    Quote Originally Posted by 7liha View Post
    Im wondering who creates the threads and does anyone know if there will be a july august thread? I think I may have to jump into that one...
    Anyone can create a Thread and there is a July/August and an August/September Thread already created

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    Wishnhope.... good luck, my transfer buddy for Monday :-)) 11 fertilised is fantastic. I guess you won't get an update tomorrow, considering it's Sunday, will you? Have they said your OHSS is mild enough to proceed with the transfer then? That's great news. I note that our BT date is the same too, even though I am doing a 5dt. I guess just differences in clinics. That date is my first day back at work after long service leave, so I probably won't even get the chance to find out until after work, which is probably a good idea, in case it's not good, and I start crying. But then again, if it is a BFP I'll probably start crying as well!!

    7liha....everyone's meds are different, so it's really hard to compare dosages with others. There's so many factors as to which protocol they put you on, which meds, which dosages - factors include age, medical issues and just difference in levels from one person to another, so I wouldn't worry about that. Your FS would have used your 1st cycle to get lots of data to go on for you.

    And yes, as Wishnhope said, others have already created a "July/August" thread and an "August/September" thread, so you just need to look in this "IVF" section for them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MGC Bertie View Post
    Wishnhope.... good luck, my transfer buddy for Monday :-)) 11 fertilised is fantastic. I guess you won't get an update tomorrow, considering it's Sunday, will you? Have they said your OHSS is mild enough to proceed with the transfer then? That's great news. I note that our BT date is the same too, even though I am doing a 5dt. I guess just differences in clinics. That date is my first day back at work after long service leave, so I probably won't even get the chance to find out until after work, which is probably a good idea, in case it's not good, and I start crying. But then again, if it is a BFP I'll probably start crying as well!!
    Haha I know how you feel, Im considering taking the arvo off just so I can cry in peace! (Happy or sad tears)

    I dont get updates til Monday unfortunately, I might give them a call before my ET as thats not til 11:45!!

    No one has mentioned the OHSS since my BT and scan on Wednesday, the embrogist and the nurse both said transfer would be Monday with no hesitation and when I called this morning for the ET time nothing was mentioned either. Either my levels went down enough not to warrant cancelling my transfer or they've compleley forgotten (and I wouldnt put it past them) Im keeping an eye on myself. No bloating, nausea or vomitting. Ive been drinking 2 + litres a day since before my EPU and taking it easy. It all pays off!

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    Sounds like you're all set Wish - hope Monday goes well for you! Keep fluids up after ET too as water is good for cell development

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    Orchids - I had a nurse phone me with the first bfn then the dr for the second. Chatting to the dr was so much more helpful, to debrief and find out what my options were. I felt a bit stranded when it was the nurse, as she gave me sad info then hung up! Wasn't quite sure what to do next.

    Cue - glad to hear you can focus on the positives after getting sad news. Fingers crossed the next cycle is your lucky one.

    MGC - yay for healthy embryos at day 3!! That is really exciting. You know the hardest part of my cycle (other than the bfn) was checking on my embryos for the first 3-5 days. Nerve wracking! Best of luck for tomorrow. I have everything crossed that you will have a sticky one on board.

    Wishnhope - best of luck for your transfer too!! I really hope it goes well and the little emby (ies?) make themselves quite at home.

    Appy - thanks for telling me about the pipelle scratch. I hadn't heard of it before but it sounds like it's resulted in a massive increase in success rates in trials. Will check with my dr about whether we could do it on our month before FET.

    AFM - AF came today (so heavy and painful) and I feel awful, in an out of control hormonal type way. Yuck. Feeling good about taking a month off before cycle 3.

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