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    If the school suggested it I would 100% do something about it. My brother had learning difficulties in primary school but the teachers were dreadful (as was the school) and it wasn't til he changed schools in grade 5 that the teachers realised he had learning issues, he wasn't just being disruptive. He eventually got a psychology assessment (in Grade 6 I think) and they recommended a number of changes to make his everyday school life better. It made a massive difference and my Mum is still upset many years later that she didn't do something earlier.

    Gifted kids can be quick learners, but if they are not motivated (for whatever reason) then they won't learn and they may be seen as 'struggling' or 'disruptive' instead of intelligent kids. It's all to do with behaviour in class. And classroom behaviour is often VERY different to what you see at home. Classrooms are a somewhat unique place with large numbers of children, noise, pressure to perform, etc.

    So, overall in answer to your OP. If your child is doing well, not bored and is happy then there is nothing 'to do' as such because what is happening already is working. But if the current situation is not working (at home or at school) then I think a psychology assessment which highlights academic/learning/behavioural strengths & weaknesses can make a huge difference. And if it's thought he has Aspergers like tendencies then he gets help with social skills training and the earlier the better - it can really make a difference.

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    Not all gifted kids have behavioural issues, my DD is a completely stereotypical nerd. We don't use the word gifted around her.

    I don't think a child necessarily needs to be tested or labelled. All that is required is a teacher and school that recognises their strengths and extends them with accelerated programs. A gifted child with behavioural issues *sometimes* is a sign they are bored.

    DD's teacher has had specialised training in gifted kids and has said that these kids need to learn to fail. Bc when everything is easy, when they actually meet a brick wall they freak out and don't know how to deal with failure. I've found that very true with DD.
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    Quote Originally Posted by beebs View Post
    It could be Apsie as well, but as with anything else, I don't want him to have a label if he doesn't need it. Plus they have taken Aspie of the DSM anyway, so what is the point.
    They haven't taken it out of the DSM I didn't think. Rather, it's been lumped in with the rest of the autism spectrum. It's still a 'proper' diagnosis. (Yes, unlike the label of 'gifted')

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    Aspect said that 10,000 people who have a diag would no longer qualify for a diag of ASD, and it would be more the Asperger type people that are high functioning that would no longer qualify. Of course if they had significant problems then of course they would still qualify for a diag.

    How the heck can you tell the difference between gifted and gifted aspie? They seem like the exact same thing



    Quote Originally Posted by 4underfour View Post
    They haven't taken it out of the DSM I didn't think. Rather, it's been lumped in with the rest of the autism spectrum. It's still a 'proper' diagnosis. (Yes, unlike the label of 'gifted')

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    If my child showed interest in wanting more education or I felt he was bored I would probably look into more educational programs or resources for him,

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    Quote Originally Posted by beebs View Post
    Aspect said that 10,000 people who have a diag would no longer qualify for a diag of ASD, and it would be more the Asperger type people that are high functioning that would no longer qualify. Of course if they had significant problems then of course they would still qualify for a diag.

    How the heck can you tell the difference between gifted and gifted aspie? They seem like the exact same thing
    All the subcategories of Autism have been removed from the DSM-V, they now all fall under Autism Spectrum Disorder. However the new dsm clearly states that any person with a confirmed diagnosis under the DSM-IV-TR doesn't 'lose' their diagnosis. If any of your service providers try to tell you that a child no longer qualifies for services based on the new dsm then they are totally incorrect and are convening the code of ethics of their profession.

    Also giftedness and Aspie (or anything on the autism spectrum) are totally separate areas. Giftedness relates solely to intelligence, Aspie/ASD is primarily a social disorder with accompanying abnormalities in behaviour.
    Not all gifted kids have social difficulties, not all Aspies have an IQ in the gifted range.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jellyfishie View Post
    Also giftedness and Aspie (or anything on the autism spectrum) are totally separate areas. Giftedness relates solely to intelligence, Aspie/ASD is primarily a social disorder with accompanying abnormalities in behaviour.
    Not all gifted kids have social difficulties, not all Aspies have an IQ in the gifted range.
    Yes was just about to say this

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    I guess what I mean is, when I read about behaviours shown by each, they seem to overlap a lot of the time? I've also read that some Asperger's children have been told the were "gifted" and no mention of ASD and some gifted children were given a diagnosis of "aspeger's" when they weren't. And that you can also be both Gifted and Aspeger's

    My dilemma is whether to try and come up with $1200 to have an assessment at Aspect - when it might not even be that. Or should I try and get him into an educational psychologist and see what they say first?

    Or should I just forget the whole thing. The school wants him to be assessed, they say he is above level for some things, but that he also doesn't listen and follow class direction and that kind of thing.

    $1200 seems an awful lot of money if we aren't on the right track...

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