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    Default formula allergy?

    DS has been exclusively breast fed for 5mths. Just recently we gave him a 120ml bottle of formula at night after a breastfeed to help him feel "full" and to give me a little longer between night feeds. (He was waking 4+ times a night). He absolutley demolished the top ups and i thought we were onto something....

    He then came out in an eczema looking rash all over his body, on his face especially. He was irritated, unhappy, stopped sleeping all together and refused the bottle after about 6 odd 120ml formula top ups over 3 nights. Had alot of poo nappies (normal consistency for a breastfed baby) i thought he was having more nappies because he was getting more milk?

    Took him to the GP and the dr said to stop the formula. Gave us some steriod cream, anti biotics as his skin was also infected and he had a temperature. that was that.
    He slept well for the next 4 days and nights exclusively on breast milk. The rash has gone, happy again. Now he has gone back to his usual ways. I think he's hungry again.

    I called my MCHN today and she suggested to get him eating solids now. Sit him up with us and he can eat what we are having, steak, steam some vegies. 3 times a day. She also said to stay clear of cow's milk formula (as DH has a lastose intollerence) and to give him soy/lactose free formula of a night for his top ups...if he needs them. Basically do what we have to do to keep the household running. But she said try him on some food first and see if it helps our nights.
    DS is 5mths 2 weeks, i wanted him to be on milk exclusively untill 6mths as i thought that was all they needed. We havent tired him on food yet. He sits up at the table, watches and enjoys a rusk occasionally while we eat, rejected rice creeal. thats his extent on foods atm.
    I still dont know if DS has a formula/lactose allergy? im too scared to try s26Gold or Heinz Nurture again. I dont want him to go thru that again.
    We are giving the soy formual a try tonight.
    I still dont know about the food....would it really help? i didnt think they ate all that much esp with BLW.

    I guess im asking what are the signs your bub might have a formula allergy?
    I realise formula can be rough on a breastfed bub but this reaction was quite severe. My GP was not exactly hlpful about it either. Just said to stop the formula and keep breastfeeding....he totally didnt get it.
    What specific alternative brands of formula can you reccomend?
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    OP: I've replied to another post of yours in the past and I fully respect your decisions to wait until 6mths for solids and do BLW and also to give formula top ups at night. I understand that its really hard with a young DD and your bub DS waking 4+ times a night. I agree with missiemack though about maybe topping up with EBM instead if you can. If your DS has had a reaction to formula so far a lot of others you haven't tried will be similar and your DS could have a similar reaction.

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    Re the introduction of solids: I REALLY REALLY struggled starting solids early around 4.5mths with my DD (now 7mths) as I was so set on exclusive breastfeeding (no bottles of ebm even) and BLW from 6mths. We did BLW really well with our DS (now 4yrs) and its an approach to introducing solids that sits really well with me in regards to how bubs self regulate their intakes of food and breastmilk. BUT after going from the GP, to the paed, to my LC, to a whizz bang GP/LC and then back to our GP again (plus the ABA thrown in there for good measure) we ended up following our GP's initial advice of early solids just after 4.5mths. I had to ask a friend how to make purees and for some advice/guidance etc. FAST FOWARD to now and after 6 weeks of slow introduction to solids through some yummy homemade pureed/mashed food and DD is now eating the family menu (within reason) by herself, with minimal spoon feeding. She is such a great little foodie and loves eating her food by herself. Once we made the switch from puree/mash to real food its just like its clicked. She doesn't eat lunch every day, mostly just breakfast and dinner with lunch sometimes, or snacks here and there while we're out enjoying a meal as a family. Have you tried your DS on some tasty pureed food rather than rice cereal?

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    So i should be focusing on food rather than formula? He was very unsettled last night, i gave him EBM about 120mls at 9pm and he smashed it. I didnt have anymore so we tried some lactose free formula (i dont think he has a lactose allergy as he's fine with my breastmilk) he had about 80mls of that. he didnt settle untill 10.30 then woke 12, 2, 4, 6.15 and slept with me untill 8am. So no improvement there.
    Maybe he is telling me he needs food.
    Should i feed him purees or give him food to eat himself?
    I had my heart set on BLW, but i guess im after trying to 'fill him up' for overnight. it's killing both DH and myself.
    I also bought an allergy formula it claims it's inspired by breastmilk and for babies who are switching from breastmilk-formula. Completely broken down, for babies who are at risk of allergies. ???

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    i thought my GP ma have elaborated a bit more as to why i should stop the formula top ups - yes he has a rash and a temp from it but why? and what is it exactly? i didnt get any answers except to keep breastfeeding :|, i am presuming his body just went haywol to the new foreign milk.
    He's never been a refluxy baby on my breastmilk. He's usually very easy to get wind out of. Except with formula - we cant get him to burp. ??
    Now i am worried about him reacting to foods. We had chicken avocado sandwiches for lunch, i was going to give DS some avocado in those mesh food eater things but then i got scared he'd come out in hives or something
    My MCHN said to sit him up with us at meal times and give him some of what we are eating be it a chunk of steak, vegies, pasta. We eat different things everynight. Arent you supposed to stay on the one food for a while for possible reactions? and so you can pin point the exact food that did it? i can keep a diary and i will, but it will be so varied?
    MCHN also said offer food 3 times a day. Isnt milk supposed to me more important? i realise with BLW they will eat what they can, probably not much at all.
    Id rather fill him up on mmilk even if it isnt my milk?
    But i love the idea of knowing whats going into my baby, like foods.
    Gah, im so confused.
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    He was weighed at the doctors last week and he is 7kgs at 5.2 months old. It was different scales to what he's usually weighed on and he was fully clothed and had a nappy on - no idea if it was wet or not. The dr just wanted to work out his medicine dosage.

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    My DD has a milk allergy and my DH has lactose intolerance (his whole family does). I had to put my DD onto Karicare Aptimal Gold + Allerpro as she was reacting to my breast milk & lactose free formula. It's a pharmacy only formula & costs $27 but worth every cent.

    Since going on this my DD's symptoms have cleared up & she is happy. It is a little weak compared to other formula but I don't care. She is 3 months & she is already grabbing food out of our hands to eat & watches her brother like a hawk. I can't wait to start giving her little bits of food after 17 weeks cause she has shocking nights from after 12.30pm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lennie View Post
    My DD has a milk allergy and my DH has lactose intolerance (his whole family does). I had to put my DD onto Karicare Aptimal Gold + Allerpro as she was reacting to my breast milk & lactose free formula. It's a pharmacy only formula & costs $27 but worth every cent.

    Since going on this my DD's symptoms have cleared up & she is happy. It is a little weak compared to other formula but I don't care. She is 3 months & she is already grabbing food out of our hands to eat & watches her brother like a hawk. I can't wait to start giving her little bits of food after 17 weeks cause she has shocking nights from after 12.30pm.
    This is the other can of formula i got that we havent tried. It has lactose in it though. that is why i went with the lactose free formula first. To rule out it's not a lactose intollerence. But he's fine on my breastmilk so pretty sure it's not the lactose but possibly one of the 546782 ingrediesnts in formula.
    What were your DD's symptoms when she had the reaction?

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    I think what your CHN is getting at is small volumes of food 3x a day; ie so you spread out the calories through the day rather than have one huge meal. Current guidelines are after 6mths to introduce everything except honey and to cook eggs thoroughly. What I did was to make some vegie purees from the Annabel karmel book just to have them in the fridge/freezer then wherever possible I give DD some of our food. She's currently eating a deconstructed chicken, cheese and salad sandwich by herself . I chose food as my DD was interested and when offered top-ups would only take the bare minimum. She wanted food not more milk. She also had undiagnosed/untreated reflux until 4.5mth also. I'd sit him up with you at meals and offer him from your plate little bits at a time. if he can't eat them by himself i'd be inclined to mush them a bit and offer gently

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    She had a runny nose constantly for 6 weeks, she didn't have a cold, her skin went blotchy, she struggled with poos, she was irritable & only would have 90mls at a time. Since then her nose has cleared up & skin is great & has no problems with poos.

    I tried switching her to lactogen formula but the symptoms came back after 3 days. I won't switch her again.

    I would give that formula a try, & see how yr LO goes.


 

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