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    Quote Originally Posted by Chunkydunks View Post
    The wars may have started some time ago but they still continue. The longer they go on the more desperate people get to escape it.
    To further add to this point, who's to say the people haven't been sitting in refugee camps elsewhere waiting for visa to be approved for years. Smugglers are often in these places preying on the desperate people who just want to get somewhere safer. Also sometime the complete journey can take years. It really doen't take much to work out how these conflicts that started some time before the spikes can be the actual cause of the spikes.

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    If any of you experienced even a remote amount of what these people experience constantly, I'm pretty sure you wouldn't think twice about getting the eff outta there to give yourself and your family a better life.
    I'm lucky that my family were caucasian and English, so were able to wait to do it 'properly', but even then we left that country with only the clothes on our back and what ever we could fit in a small bag each. Had we not been privileged to be caucasian and English, I dare say I'd have been one of those people seeking refuge on a boat, or perhaps even 6ft under. I do not blame them one bit.

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    Okay, now it's started to actively bug me.

    WHY do people have such an issue with asylum seekers??

    I may not be understanding the issue because I don't believe being born here gives me any rights to claim ownership of the country, so Australia doesn't belong to me or anyone else. It simple is, and we just happen to be lucky enough to be born onto a stable piece of land. So, this could be why I'm so ignorant of these problems.

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    The problem is, sometimes people actually have no choice but to get on a boat ;
    The Bangaladeshi government in Dhaka has refused to allow the UN High Commissioner for Refugees (UNHCR) to register Rohingya arrivals since 1992. This means all but 30,000 of the Rohingyas are denied refugee status. The unregistered Rohingyas – more than 200,000 by some estimates – are officially considered illegal migrants and cannot get food rations provided by the World Food Programme. They are also denied access to basic healthcare and education provided by the UNHCR and its partner organisations.

    And because of this, they are then not able to apply for asylum offshore as they are not considered genuine refugees by the Bangaladsh government, catch 22 or what.

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    Wouldn't that be a reason to have less of an issue with asylum seekers, or am I not understanding? My brain is fried, so I apologies if I am.

    I don't entirely understand how you can deny someone refugee status. I thought that was the whole point of it being a refugee status?

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    There are over 40 million registered refugees in the world, that isn't including all the unregistered ones.

    I cannot belive that people freak out about 5459 boat arrivals last year.

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    Bangaladesh haven't signed the UNHCR refugee convention like we have, so yes - that is even more of a reason why we should be helping these people out, instead of persecuting them when they finally make it here to saftey.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jennaisme View Post
    Okay, now it's started to actively bug me.

    WHY do people have such an issue with asylum seekers??

    I may not be understanding the issue because I don't believe being born here gives me any rights to claim ownership of the country, so Australia doesn't belong to me or anyone else. It simple is, and we just happen to be lucky enough to be born onto a stable piece of land. So, this could be why I'm so ignorant of these problems.
    The arguments are usually about risking "our" way of life, or the fact that we should be "helping our own before we help boat people". It's fear based and it's total rubbish but it gets passed on.

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    Ah. So, to put it in a short and simple way "they aren't Australian"?


    What a load of nonsense. I can't believe anyone with any kind of compassion or empathy would think that's excusable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jennaisme View Post
    Ah. So, to put it in a short and simple way "they aren't Australian"?


    What a load of nonsense. I can't believe anyone with any kind of compassion or empathy would think that's excusable.
    They are "different" and historically, difference frightens (some) Strayans.


 

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