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    So I have bitten the bullet and booked my appt with dr m for mid nov. I called dr sacks office and requested all of my blood tests and guess what it seems (from my limited research on google) that I have high nk cells 14.2% and heterozygous mthfr a1298c of which he never mentioned! Not happy jan. Hopefully Dr M has some ideas I'm just so over having to do doctors jobs for them....


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    Nattie that is so frustrating! I really hope dr m can help you, with your endo, nk cells and mthfr it sounds like its down his alley for sure. Best of luck and let us know how you go xx

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    Does anyone know what is considered high ANA and what is considered low?

    Also doing my first clexane injection tonight - any tips? I've heard not to get rid of air bubble, pinch belly fat off to the side and inject vertically - ish? Does the whole needle part go in?

    TIA for any help.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Little Ted View Post
    Does anyone know what is considered high ANA and what is considered low?

    Also doing my first clexane injection tonight - any tips? I've heard not to get rid of air bubble, pinch belly fat off to the side and inject vertically - ish? Does the whole needle part go in?

    TIA for any help.
    I'm not sure what low is considered Little Ted, but at 1:1280 mine is considered very high - I don't think they test any higher than that actually.

    My Ob was very impressed yesterday at how little bruising I have from the clexane. I ice the area for about a minute, then pinch the fat and inject straight in. Definitely leave the air bubble in, and yes, the whole needle goes in. I also ice the area afterwards which seems to help bruising.

    I've heard that they used to recommend injecting clexane vertically, there's new guidelines (just straight in at a 90 degree angle to your body) but a lot of veteran nurses etc still go by the "old" way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arlais View Post
    I'm not sure what low is considered Little Ted, but at 1:1280 mine is considered very high - I don't think they test any higher than that actually.

    My Ob was very impressed yesterday at how little bruising I have from the clexane. I ice the area for about a minute, then pinch the fat and inject straight in. Definitely leave the air bubble in, and yes, the whole needle goes in. I also ice the area afterwards which seems to help bruising.

    I've heard that they used to recommend injecting clexane vertically, there's new guidelines (just straight in at a 90 degree angle to your body) but a lot of veteran nurses etc still go by the "old" way.
    Ah - Thank you! I "googled" it the other day and it seemed to recommend all sorts of things. Tried to get sharps container from chemist yesterday but they were all out. Do you find that is the best place to get them? My ANA was only 640 and fs said it was low - but at the time didn't tell me the number and I was thinking (probably just hoping) that his "low" would have been around 80-160. I wonder if my other children are 'miracles' or if my ANA only developed after DD was born.

    I have another question - Do I have to be careful of knocks to the head and body? Just thinking this today as DS2 accidentally copped me in the head when I was bending down yesterday and just axed my toes on a safety gate...again!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Little Ted View Post
    Ah - Thank you! I "googled" it the other day and it seemed to recommend all sorts of things. Tried to get sharps container from chemist yesterday but they were all out. Do you find that is the best place to get them? My ANA was only 640 and fs said it was low - but at the time didn't tell me the number and I was thinking (probably just hoping) that his "low" would have been around 80-160. I wonder if my other children are 'miracles' or if my ANA only developed after DD was born.

    I have another question - Do I have to be careful of knocks to the head and body? Just thinking this today as DS2 accidentally copped me in the head when I was bending down yesterday and just axed my toes on a safety gate...again!
    I got my last sharps container from my fertility clinic, but the only other place I know to get them from is the chemist. I have also found that some chemists don't stock much clexane, so it may be worth calling ahead. If you're going to be on it for quite some time then it's a good idea to ask whomever is prescribing it for an "authority script" so you can get it cheaper. I get 4 boxes (10 needles in each) for about $36.

    I know that ANA levels can vary at different times, so it may not have effected your previous pregnancies. My Ob said it was good that I'm starting my family fairly young (28) as it can make things more difficult over time.

    I've bled a little after a couple of injections (when I've nicked a vein) but I didn't think the blood really clotted any slower than normal. I'm on aspirin too but it doesn't seem to have effected me either. I have been keeping an eye out and haven't noticed I'm bruising any easier from knocks and bumps. I guess the best thing would be to go to your GP or specialist if you are concerned about any potential injuries.

    Feel free to PM me at any time Little Ted

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    Little ted, my ob said that mine was low and it's 1280 😳 I asked dr m and he said 40-160 is low, anything over 320 will cause issues. At 640 yours is the second highest level so I would not consider that as low! I inject the same way arlais does, straight in and the whole needle has to go in. I only get a bruise every now and then. I also never had mine tested before dd so don't know if they increased suddenly or what the go is

    My ob said that bleeding is more of an issue in 2nd and 3rd tri, he has told me not to drive long distances as a car accident could be dangerous, but I think normal knocks and bumps are ok

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arlais View Post
    I got my last sharps container from my fertility clinic, but the only other place I know to get them from is the chemist. I have also found that some chemists don't stock much clexane, so it may be worth calling ahead. If you're going to be on it for quite some time then it's a good idea to ask whomever is prescribing it for an "authority script" so you can get it cheaper. I get 4 boxes (10 needles in each) for about $36.

    I know that ANA levels can vary at different times, so it may not have effected your previous pregnancies. My Ob said it was good that I'm starting my family fairly young (28) as it can make things more difficult over time.

    I've bled a little after a couple of injections (when I've nicked a vein) but I didn't think the blood really clotted any slower than normal. I'm on aspirin too but it doesn't seem to have effected me either. I have been keeping an eye out and haven't noticed I'm bruising any easier from knocks and bumps. I guess the best thing would be to go to your GP or specialist if you are concerned about any potential injuries.

    Feel free to PM me at any time Little Ted
    Thank you so much Arlais and timetoshine! It's great to be able to talk to people and ask questions. I didn't even check how much the clexane cost me - will have a look later. After reading your comments last night DH gave me my first shot - I chickened out. It stung for about 10min but other than that it was fine.

    It is a strange thing - I gave birth to DD and then (surprisingly) fell pregnant 3 months later and it was a very different pregnancy with the baby not having the same affect on me as my others did and then I mc'd at 19 weeks. The last two pregnancies have also been the same as far as the baby not impacting on me. I was so ill with the other kids and really tired, getting up to pee, reflux, etc., then almost nothing with the last ones - just metallic taste and bloating. It seems as though it happened after DD - but I don't know what caused it. I know I had to have a course of antibiotics a week or so after her birth as my canula sight got infected internally - it's the only thing I can remember.

    Edit: Just checked the box - for 2x10 (40mg) packs I paid $36.10. I went to our usual 'cheaper' chemist - it isn't in the main shopping centre where we get groceries, but saves us hundreds in scripts compared to the other one!
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    Fingers crossed the clexane will help you get another beautiful take home baby Little Ted.

    I gave myself an injection for the first time last night - so proud of myself! DH is going away on the weekend to help his dad, and I didn't want to have to tag along just so he could give me my jab. I've been having daily shots for about 12 weeks now (plus DH doing all the stim shots for the IVF cycle), so it's taken me a long time to get to the point where I felt brave enough to do it myself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arlais View Post
    Fingers crossed the clexane will help you get another beautiful take home baby Little Ted.

    I gave myself an injection for the first time last night - so proud of myself! DH is going away on the weekend to help his dad, and I didn't want to have to tag along just so he could give me my jab. I've been having daily shots for about 12 weeks now (plus DH doing all the stim shots for the IVF cycle), so it's taken me a long time to get to the point where I felt brave enough to do it myself.
    You are a brave woman Arlais. So glad your pregnancy is progressing well.

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