We all do our bit. I'm not saying anyone's bit is more than anyone else's. This is not a stab at being a SAHM (which I have also been at times). I am only saying while I can understand the rationale for ppl I do not understand, and I have never understood the rationale for the bb. We only received it once, and we gave most of it to charity as it just felt wrong to get it on our incomes. I'm no martyr I'm just realistic about what this country can afford. If people who stay home receive other assistance or tax benefits then isn't that something?
I understand some people need it. But we are basically talking about people earning between $120k and $150k losing it (yes I realise it will probably be different when Liberals win).
I'm not picking a fight - just explaining why I'm saying I'm not sad if the bb goes.
I haven't read through everything nor have I had a chance to read exactly what's being cut/changed etc so I may be WAY off....
But we are ttc no2 and I'm self employed, and not entitled to ppl soo was planning to use the bb as my "ppl" if that makes sense... Once pregnant and bub arrived I would be able to take a few weeks off. Which now, I still will be able too, but probably will still need to work one or two part days.... We are a low income family, so having it would of been nice so I didn't have to do them few days of work in the first few weeks.
Last edited by trying4no2; 14-05-2013 at 22:26.
Similar to as I described - this is someone I know.....
She worked 1 shift a week before having her 4th child. Her bf got a full CL payment. She got 80% parenting payment. They got full FTB, she paid pretty much no tax. She got the PLL. Then under the libs, my husband works more hours than her, pays more tax. We receive significantly less CL. Yet we get nothing. Can you see why that annoys me?
I would like to see the BB capped at 2k for first AND subsequent children. After 2 years ttc my youngest is almost 6 so all my baby stuff is basically stuffed lol I think that is fair given the PPL is much more.....
I can't comment on your example of your friend as I've no idea what CL is or how family tax benefits work as we don't get them so to be completely honest I'm largely ignorant about these things. But I should clarify I don't agree with scrapping with bb entirely if it means people on low incomes will truly be worse off. My honest understanding was there were always other benefits as well as many tax benefits from having one partner stay at home. If that's not the case then obviously it's unfair.
It's not my nature to really worry about what other people get. Some people can fall into sh!t and come out smelling like roses. We paid a fortune for IVF treatments over the years only to see the rebate constantly reduced and to see forum after forum full of people saying why should the gov't or tax payers pay for my medical treatment to have a baby. Despite the fact we'd been paying the top tax bracket for several years and IVF was pretty much the first time we'd ever asked for anything back. Yep it burned me at the time so I get why anyone in your position would be angry about this too. If the libs get in I'm probably a lot better off but I don't want to raise my kids in a world where everyone's worth is tied to how much they earn.
But back to topic lol - I hope I say this in the right way, but when you are in a sound financial position, it's easy to say don't worry about others. Again, we could cope. But it's more the principle for me. What this new plan effectively says is that a woman working with a man at home gets quite a lot of money. But a man working with a woman at home will get nothing.
My DH is working plus studying to better himself. Why are his taxes less worthwhile than a woman paying less than half the tax he does just bc she's a woman? And really, that IS what it boils down to.
Again, I support the PPL, I just don't support the BB being completely cut...
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