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    Quote Originally Posted by kw123 View Post
    I've never heard anyone with higher income wish they had less. Of course they could have less if they chose by my working or changing career.

    It's just nice to get a more balanced view about how wealthy the wealthy actually are. Lower income earners probably generally have no idea about what deductions a high income earner does, and how different things like the cost of childcare are for people who earn more than them.

    This article can hopefully enlighten.
    I do I've been high, middle and low. I paid child care as a high income household and as a low.

    I haven't experienced being mega rich though.

    I know that on six figures we easily bought a house,upgraded to a bigger one etc. I was not struggling. But I didn't have credit cards, designer clothing and new cars.

    I also know that many people spend beyond their means.

    I do however feel that child are should be free and of a much higher standard then it currently is. However I'm a socialist/ feminist who wants wealth more evenly distributed and for women to have equity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sockstealingpoltergeist View Post
    I do however feel that child are should be free and of a much higher standard then it currently is.
    Entirely free? For everybody?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lillynix View Post
    You know what irritates me? High income earners banging on about how much tax they pay, how they lose so much hard earned money to tax. Well y'know what? Suck it up. You're in the very privileged position of being a high income earner and money for the country has to come from somewhere.

    You should always be better off as a high income earner, over a low income earner, despite those high taxes. If you're not, you're doing it wrong.

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    Ok I have to comment on this. Yes I appreciate the fact that we don't struggle, but it wasn't something that was handed to us with little effort on our part. We both work hard and always have done. We made some beneficial choices, sacrifices and put in lots of time and effort.

    For what it's worth, I don't mind paying higher taxes if that money is spent wisely. Its the other ways they suck us dry that annoys me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lillynix View Post
    You know what irritates me? High income earners banging on about how much tax they pay, how they lose so much hard earned money to tax. Well y'know what? Suck it up. You're in the very privileged position of being a high income earner and money for the country has to come from somewhere.

    You should always be better off as a high income earner, over a low income earner, despite those high taxes. If you're not, you're doing it wrong.

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    But this article is about so much more than this usual - and horribly simplistic - categorisation of people by income.

    It gives a much deeper overview of the true position of Australian households by income, income sources, demographics, assets, housing ...

    There's so much in it to discuss yet BH always comes back to the same old same old.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lillynix View Post
    You know what irritates me? High income earners banging on about how much tax they pay, how they lose so much hard earned money to tax. Well y'know what? Suck it up. You're in the very privileged position of being a high income earner and money for the country has to come from somewhere.

    You should always be better off as a high income earner, over a low income earner, despite those high taxes. If you're not, you're doing it wrong.

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    Did you even read the article? There is no need for your aggressive post in a completely constructive thread.

    We didn't inherit our careers or income - we worked for them. So less of the privileged crap please.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lambjam View Post
    Entirely free? For everybody?
    Well she is a Socialist... But pretty sure that wont ever happen, nor should it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lillynix View Post
    You know what irritates me? High income earners banging on about how much tax they pay, how they lose so much hard earned money to tax. Well y'know what? Suck it up. You're in the very privileged position of being a high income earner and money for the country has to come from somewhere.

    You should always be better off as a high income earner, over a low income earner, despite those high taxes. If you're not, you're doing it wrong.

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    I just read this thread, and can't work out where people are banging on about how much tax they pay? The whoke thread seemed pretty civil and constructive to me.

    On another not, why are people in a high income bracket not allowed to be frustrated when they get hit with higher taxes? Just because someone earns more, doesn't mean they have to do a cheerful song and dance when they have to pay more taxes. I just don't understand the attitude that people on higher incomes are not entitled to feel frustrated simply because their pay packet is bigger.

    Often, while a tax hike or allowance I am not entitled to frustrates me, it does not mean I disagree with it. Most of the time, despite frustration, I can understand the reasoning behind it, and grudgingly agree. I am still entitled to a vent, I am still allowed to be frustrated.

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    Yes, I read the OP. I found it very interesting to see things broken down like that. Someone else mentioned how they'd like to see other areas added up and compared as well, as I agree. This does give good insight as to the differences between on paper income and reality.

    Whilst there was no one in particular in this thread complaining, it certainly happens the majority of the time. I guess my point was, even if on paper your income looks good, but in reality it doesn't really compare, based on other factors and expenses, it's still a privileged position to be in compared to many others.

    Having said that, being in that privileged position doesn't mean you haven't worked hard, or that inherited your income/careers and I don't think I implied either of those things.

    For the record, sure, be frustrated if you're paying more taxes, but you're still in a better financial position than many and it shouldn't give you the right to whinge to those less fortunate than you.

    Ultimately, taxes make the country go round. Someone has to be high taxes, if it so happen to be you, just be thankful that you're in a country that uses those taxes in ways to (mostly, but it's not perfect) benefit the country. Whether you benefit directly, or indirectly, you are still benefiting from paying taxes, and your higher taxes help even more. It's a much better option that having a government who taxes you highly, then does nothing with it other than line their own pockets to the detriment of the country.

    Perhaps my post was a little out of line in this thread, I'm just tired of hearing people whinge lately and i've had enough of people (no one here) having such an entitled stance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kw123 View Post
    Well she is a Socialist... But pretty sure that wont ever happen, nor should it.
    Why not. Plenty of countries do it. The ones who care about access and equity and children and such.

    Although it probably doesn't need to be paid for, for people earning six figures. But I'm all for everyone getting the same.


 
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