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    Nobody has attacked anyone. If you think you have been attacked you should report it. Strongly disagreeing with someone doesn't equal an attack.

    It makes me sad that future generations are being raised with these views and I only hope that schools and peers will have enough influence so they don't keep those views as adults. One can but hope.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lauzy83 View Post
    Ok so maybe I shouldn't have come across like all of them are treated better than Australians. I should've elaborated.

    Don't think it's fair that my comment be questioned as a joke.

    From what I have seen when I lived in NSW, they were being put up in houses, given money from the government to purchase things (given free stuff too) and receive ongoing government assistance through the Centrelink.

    Meanwhile there were families with children living out of their cars. Women in refuges escaping abuse etc. with nowhere to go.

    Please don't attack me for voicing my opinion and what I am aware of. It's really not fair and if I am misinformed then let me know without attacking me.

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    Actually there is no centrelink payments for asylum seekers
    When I am on my computer I will share some links.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lauzy83 View Post
    Ok so maybe I shouldn't have come across like all of them are treated better than Australians. I should've elaborated.

    Don't think it's fair that my comment be questioned as a joke.

    From what I have seen when I lived in NSW, they were being put up in houses, given money from the government to purchase things (given free stuff too) and receive ongoing government assistance through the Centrelink.

    Meanwhile there were families with children living out of their cars. Women in refuges escaping abuse etc. with nowhere to go.

    Please don't attack me for voicing my opinion and what I am aware of. It's really not fair and if I am misinformed then let me know without attacking me.

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    And what do you mean exactly "from what you have seen". Do you know any of them personally? Do you know what they receive? What are you basing your judgements on?

    My heart goes out to anyone in a refuge, living in a car, etc. but they are NOT in that position because a refugee has "taken their place". These are societal issues that happen regardless of immigration and refugee activity. Honestly, it seriously defies logic to blame asylum seekers for this type of thing. If anyone can explain it I'd love to hear it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Luna Lovegood View Post
    Actually there is no centrelink payments for asylum seekers
    When I am on my computer I will share some links.
    Thanks. I'll read them when you do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kw123 View Post
    My heart goes out to anyone in a refuge, living in a car, etc. but they are NOT in that position because a refugee has "taken their place". These are societal issues that happen regardless of immigration and refugee activity. Honestly, it seriously defies logic to blame asylum seekers for this type of thing. If anyone can explain it I'd love to hear it.
    I never said that.

    I understand that you have your feelings about it as I do mine but I'm not going to continue going to go backwards and forwards with you.

    I appreciated part of your previous comment about an article in a paper of a state that I am not in. Thanks for that information.

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    This is excellent reading I keep bookmarked in my phone incase of Facebook ignorance after another Hubber posted it a while back. http://www.asrc.org.au/media/documen...o-apr-2011.pdf

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    Kw123 I agree with every single thing you have said

    Lauzy- asylum seekers only become eligible for centrelink when they have been granted visas. So this is when they have been found to be genuine refugees. And when this happens, they get access to the exact same benefits and housing commission accommodation that you and I would be entitled to. Any furniture etc they might get is generally from groups like the salvos- there is no real provision for this sort of thing. Put yourself in their shoes for a minute. You have made a harrowing escape from a war torn country with your family. You literally fled for your lives and endured a dangerous sea voyage to get here. You were then locked up for months or even years before being allowed to stay. Hopefully in that time your English improved, but maybe it didn't. So after years of trauma you are suddenly alone in a new country. What is the first thing you do? You accept the benefits you have been advised you are able to access (yes, advocacy groups help them to access newstart)
    Many of these people are suffering depression and PTSD, but the majority of them WANT to work, and DO work. They are often happy to do the jobs your average 3rd or 4th generation of "dole bludging" Australians turn their noses up at- but that's another thread altogether!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lauzy83 View Post
    Ok so maybe I shouldn't have come across like all of them are treated better than Australians. I should've elaborated.

    Don't think it's fair that my comment be questioned as a joke.

    From what I have seen when I lived in NSW, they were being put up in houses, given money from the government to purchase things (given free stuff too) and receive ongoing government assistance through the Centrelink.

    Meanwhile there were families with children living out of their cars. Women in refuges escaping abuse etc. with nowhere to go.

    Please don't attack me for voicing my opinion and what I am aware of. It's really not fair and if I am misinformed then let me know without attacking me.

    Thanks.
    Did you speak to them and know exactly that they got given stuff?

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    My parents both work with asylum seekers and I can categorically inform you that they don't live better than 'Australians'. Its a very tough, often lonely life, but thankfully better than where they have come from.

    Its like this belief that Indigenous people get free cars and extra benefits- Don't believe everything you see on TT or ACA!

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    Does anyone know if this program will be repeated? I don't have my computer at the moment so can't view it online. TIA


 

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