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    Hi Girls.................

    Kenta: Thank-you so much for taking the time and presenting a well balanced argument for Day3 and 5 transfers. And now that I'm over my initial disappointment etc and have processed things, you are absolutely right...4 out of 6 is a pretty good fertilisation result all things considered. And yes, I agree, we do want perfection, especially when egg numbers are low. For me, it feels like "safety in numbers" especially if I'm growing them out to Day 5.

    The other two eggs were no good anyway. One just didn't fertilise for some reason, the egg was empty and the other as I mentioned earlier, fertilised abnormally, so they were out from the beginning. We're going to have 3 transferred again (would love to put in all 4, but 3 apparently is the limit), like last cycle, so based on that, my DP and I don't see any point in growing them out to Day 5 and are opting to have a Day 3 transfer on Sat (all going well of course, and there being 3 of our embies still alive and kicking) plus none of our excess embryo's in the past have ever been good enough to freeze, even when they did make it to blasty's on Cycle's 1 and 2, so, again, cannot see the point of waiting until Day 5. I did query WDA (before starting this cycle) about doing a "freeze all" at Day 3 (thinking I might have better success with a FET) this time, but he said it's too risky to do that in case the embies don't survive either the freeze or thaw and that personally, in his practice, his preg rates were 50/50 fresh or frozen and if he thought frozen was the way to go, he'd implement that as standard practice.

    No, you haven't made my decision harder luv. I very much appreciate and value your input (as I do Dom's and all my other lovely ladies that want to weigh in). As soon as I heard only 4 fertilised, my initial feeling was to have a Day 3 transfer. I just needed to think about all angles of both arguments and what would be right for us in our situation (i.e...not a lot of numbers and usually only producing average grade embies).

    I also needed to give myself a kick up the a r s e and remember to be grateful for what we do have instead of bit**ing and moaning about what we didn't (i.e all 6 embryo's fertilise). Things could of been so much worse and I could of got 0 fertilisation and 0 chance. There are some ladies out there who would love to have 4 embryo's like we do and be in with a chance like we are. Just had to remind myself and change my perspective and practice a bit more gratitude instead of selfishness and thanklessness.

    Now that I've had an "attitude adjustment", I'm feeling more positive and hopeful again and yes, grateful we're getting another opportunity here Will find out in the morning how the "Fantastic Four" are travelling and what time ET will be on Sat. I also followed up the Intralipid infusion and apparently I was meant to have it after EPU, but the nurse who I told (and who was meant to follow it up with WDA and get orders written up for it) didn't (WDA told Kate no nurse had come to see him about it) so now if I want it, I'd have to wait until Monday, so am not going to have it now, which is fine, I haven't got immune issues, it was just another thing he wanted to try just because he can, so is no biggie for me

    Ok my lovelies, forgive my whinging and whining earlier. I'll be back to update you all after I've spoken to Kate in the morning Until then................

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    Well done BinB for making a decision. I think you've made a very good and logical decision that should give you the best chance with your four. Wishing you lots of luck on Saturday and the 2ww ends up with the best Christmas present you could ever get.

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    Hello Girls...................

    Have not long got off the ph to FN Kate and all of the "Fantastic Four" are alive and kicking and doing what they should I've got 2x2cells... 1xGrade 4 and 1xGrade 3, 2x4 cells...1xGrade4 and 1xGrade 3. When I said to Kate that a Grade 5 was probably too much to hope for all things considered (my age and TESA'd sperm etc), she said a Grade 5 is rare to get anyway, and that what we've got is really good, so am happy with that These embryo's are better graded this cycle than last cycle (3 embryo's graded a 2,3 and a 4), so there's been some slight improvement this cycle.

    Hopefully they'll maintain their grades at the very least going into tomorrow and it'd be even better if the 3's go up to a 4 for transfer. I'm booked in for a mid morning transfer, so the "Fantastic Four" keep on dividing away until then I've sent an e-mail to Kate wondering if it's at all possible to have all 4 transferred tomorrow, as that's what I'd like to do taking into account my age, the fact that none of the embryo's are Grade 5's and the number of failed cycles I've got behind me. I strongly doubt I'll be able to, but just thought I'd ask plus I'm interested to know if the maximum embryo's you're allowed to transfer are based on the law, the Fertility Clinic's policy or the FS's discretion??

    Ok my lovely ladies, am feeling excited and hopeful again Can't wait to get 'em into my oven and cooking!!! I'm so hoping for a Xmas BFP!!!! Incidentally, I have to go have my Beta bloods done at S&N as QFG will be closed from the 24/12 until the 6/1 2014 then I have to call the QFG nurse for results that may or may not be available that day. FFS!!! Whatev's!!! I'm pretty sure I'll have a good idea by BT day anyhoo.

    Have a great day girls. Be back for an update tomorrow. Until then.......

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    Fantastic news BinB. Best of luck tomorrow.

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    My dear Blonde... sorry for the slow post today but have been Xmas shopping all day aaarrghh.... just got home a few hours ago... then mum on the phone for an hour and a half tonight... so at last a chance to post!
    Anyhoo... I am absolutely elated for you and the four musketeers my dear . It really does sound like you have yourself four lovely strong embryos - all those months of spoon licking and pill popping has paid off as that is a great result.

    Sending loads of good vibes and baby sparkles for tomorrow for ET and beyond... look forward to hearing from you when you are PUPO.... good night my dear, sleep tight and you know I will be checking for your update.

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    Yay BinB, - so so glad that your fantastic four are kicking along nicely. That is wonderful news. I hope your transfer goes smoothly tomorrow, so you can get back to baking your little Xmas surprise.



    Best of luck Hun, xx

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    Hi Girls...........I'm officially PUPO with 3 good quality embryo's I've got 1x5 cells, 1x6 cells and 1x 7cells. At first, I was a bit bummed with the grading they got, but when I spoke to the embryologist this morning before I went in for transfer, he told me that the embryo's have less than 10% fragmentation, the blastomeres are similar in size, my egg zona is not too thick or dark looking and there was no multinucleation seen and that the only reason he didn't grade them a 4 was because they hadn't reached the 8 cell stage at that time so had to grade them a 3 but they were really good embryo's and that if, for whatever reason they were going to freeze them today, their quality was good enough to do that. He also said to bear in mind the embryo's were not quite 72hrs old either and that no doubt by late this arvo they would be at the 8 cell stage (though obviously can't be certain of it). The last slow poke emby is only at 4 cells, so they're going to grow it out and see what happens (though I'm not holding my breath). Transfer went smoothly (there was a tiny bit of blood on the catheter afterwards from my cervix getting a little irritated, but no spotting, cramping or anything else to worry about.So taking all the embryologist said into consideration, I'm really happy with the results especially the minimal fragmentation. Now for the 2WTorture ahead!!! and for a BFP!!! Go the "3 Amigo's"!!!Allrighty, am off to have a wee rest. Got the "Hazy Fantazy" going on from the valium and pethidine Hope you're all having a great day so far girls. Will keep you updated as I go.Until next time....................
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    Congrats and good luck BinB...what are you going to do with triplets
    The cell number doesn't mean anything as the blastocyst we have frozen were only 5 cell or 6 cell and fragmented at day 3....so don't worry about the grading other than they were good embryos and hopefully will grow in your oven and QFG will tell you most of their pregnancies are from this grade of embryos anyway. Good luck for your tww and hope it passes by without making you stircrazy as it always makes me

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    Lol @Kenta.
    Congrats Blondie, great news... I'll be stalking to see how you get on xx

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    Great news BinB, - So glad you have your darlings Hughy, Dewy, and Loui in there baking away. I'm keeping everything crossed that at least 1 of your lovelies will stick with you. Best of luck with surviving the 2ww. I have a good feeling about this one

    xx, MrsP...

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