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    Agggghhhhh... I just lost my entire post. Will have to start it again tonight.

    BinB, - I'm so sorry hun

    Just quickly dom, - We got 5 eggs from that first (successful) cycle. Went well with DrL. Will be staying here to do an AACEP with him. AF due monday and will start monitoring then.

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    Blonde Just a quick post before bedtime to say thinking of you and have everything crossed for you for tomorrow…. Re royal jelly - I buy mine from the health food store... it is fresh and you take about 1/2 a tsp a day and it needs to be kept in the fridge. I'm not sure how you would go ordering it online as it would need to be sent via a refrigerated courier which would cost an arm and a leg... and I haven't seen fresh RJ available at a chemist - at least not here in Cairns. As for what to do differently next time... well that's exactly where I'm at as well. I am just going to focus on creating the best physical environment for my follicles to be developing in over the next three months (supplements/exercise/detox/diet/acu etc) as that's all I really have control over... and of course I'll stuff DP full of supplements as well... Mrs P Glad to hear your consult with Dr L went well... it must be a relief to have finally made the decision on where to cycle.Night night ladies.... I have sleepy eyes and it is time for bed....
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    Blonde, - I really hope the sticks were faulty and your BT comes back positive. Wouldn't that be a fantastic surprise. I can totally understand that you wanted to do your yet a little early. I would do the same thing. Why take those horrible drugs when you don't have to. BUT!!!! - I hope you have to take them for another 4 to 8 weeks .




    Dom, - Everything you are doing sounds so positive. It's inspiring . I'll go and check out go-vita smithfield today.

    Have to go. I'll keep writing in bits and pieces.

    MrsP...

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    Hi Domiffy and Mrs P.......

    Am still waiting, no news yet, but as I told the Vampire this morning, I'm expecting a BFN, so write that on the pathology form so they know when they call. I told her I really felt for them in the lab having to make those calls to us BFN women although most of us knew by the time we had our BT's that we were out anyway.

    Unfortunately, Mrs P, the sticks don't lie and a BFN it will be for me. I don't allow myself those kinds of "flight's of fancy" I'm afraid, and just deal in the reality and the evidence of what I see. And fading sticks is what I saw. Glad to hear you've got where you're going to Cycle sorted, and it'll be a lot more stress-free (and cheaper) for you to do it at home. Good luck to you love and I hope that lurgy's on its way out too...... I'll be closely following your journey......


    Domiffy love, thanks for the heads up about the Royal Jelly, will check out my Chemist Wharehouse, if not, there's a myriad of healthfood shops close by, so will get it one way or another. As Mrs P said, you are so inspiring and I admire your positivity too. It's motivating me to keep on going (until we use up the rest of DP's sperm anyhoo). Will be following your next cycle like a hawk too.... LOL.......

    Unfortunately, I can't afford to do any accupuncture, TCM or anything like that (would've of loved to give it a go, but needs must) so will rely on the supplements and my diet/excercise regime to do the job. No Saizen either or any other bells and whistles this time around (not if I want to get the $ together to do another round) so, just the basics this time, though I will be asking WDA to review the protocol and tailor it more to me individually. I don't want the "cookie cutter" approach this time, and I deserve some deeper thought and attention paid to what protocol/drug combinations would benefit me the greatest after this many cycles, I feel.

    On the way home this morning after BT, I was telling DP what I told the Vampire about how hard the BFN calls must be to make yadda,yadda,yadda and how it's ok doing the "happy, happy, joy, joy" BFP calls and then he started to cry (which, of course, made me cry) and said "Yeah, and how would you feel knowing it was your fault in the first place??".... Of course, that made cry even more and I had to tell him again that that's not how I feel and then I replied back to him "Have you considered that maybe it's my fault that the embryo's won't impalant?? If you really want to talk about fault, why won't at least one of them take??. We make them well enough, they get transferred, but they won't stay with me, not even one.....Why??" I said to DP. So then we were both crying in the car on the way home....

    I then went on to tell him I loved him, it was no-body's fault and it "is what it is", and that I didn't want to hear him blame himself ever again and the only thing we can do is either give up or keep trying. I then told him that I wanted to try again in around 5 months time and not waste the 2 vials of frozen TESA sperm we had, especially as he went through quite a bit to get them and that I will be 40 for 12 months and know that we can do 2 more cycles in that 12 months if need's be and I'll still be honouring my commitment of stopping the IVF at 40 like I told him I would. I then went on to tell him I've worked out the financials and we can do it more easily this next time as we will save money by not having to do A,B and C and that I've structured it so there will be a little extra $ leftover for him to spend on whatever he wants so that he doesn't feel like he's working his guts out for nothing and that if we stick to the budget I've planned, we'll even get a little bit of a head start of saving some $ to replace "The Heap" down the track. Haven't pushed him for an answer, have just left him to mull it over and go into his "man cave" to have a think about things

    BTW Dom.....did coming off the drugs make you sick or anything?? Just wondering about withdrawal side-effects etc. Must go for now girls. Am a bit tied up for the next few days, but will find a way to post the official BFN when I get it. Enjoy the rest of your weekend and I'll be back soon.........
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    Blonde, - I can't write much, but I've been thinking of you all day. I hope you are all right hon. Your husband and you are lucky to have each other. . Will be watching for you to announce your next cycle. .

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    Hello my dear Blonde… I’ve been stalking this thread and thinking about you all day. This journey is so heartbreaking at times… all I can say is hold on tight to DH – you will get each other through this. As Mrs P said you are lucky to have each other. You sound like you put a very persuasive case to DH for cycling again in a few months... he will have plenty of time to come on board with it if he hasn't already . I think you are wise to discuss with WDA a more individualised approach which takes into account your history over several cycles - I find I learn a little more about myself each time I jump aboard the IVF train and it seems a waste and oversight not to draw on this information... I must admit, I was rather disappointed at WDA's 'cookie cutter' approach. Anyhoo... Tis time for bed... take care my love, you know you are in my thoughts.

    AFM...
    no dramas coming off the drugs, not really any side-effects that I'm aware of aside from being a bit weepy on the first day of my period but that's nothing unusual. I was expecting a bit more of a hormonal crash so I have been pleasantly surprised on that front. Blonde, just make sure you ween yourself off the prednisone (ie don't go cold turkey)... as you have to reduce your dose gradually over a week or two.
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    Blonde, - Still thinking of you hon! I hope you and DP are feeling a little better today.

    Dom, - I'm glad you are coming off the drugs well. Makes it slightly less painful.

    AFM, - CD 2 of my assessment cycle. I am rather glad that we are taking a month to check out my cycle before deciding exactly what drugs I'll be on. Also it's a chance for everyone to get well before getting on this ride again. And a chance for a natural attempt.

    gotta go, check in again soon.

    MrsP...

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    Hi ladies,

    Sorry for the delay in getting back to you all.

    Blonde - I am so sorry to hear that this cycle wasn't successful for you. Big hugs to you . IVF truly is a game of chance and it is devastating how it works so easily for some but not for others. Good luck with convincing your DH to go again when the tie is right.

    Dominfy - Thank you so much for posting so much useful information. One of my biggest flaws over the years throughout all of this has been putting too much faith in the fertility specialists and not researching and analysing things enough for myself. Had I done what you have done earlier then I at least would have had the right treatment when we were still making beautiful embryos. I am sorry your cycle with WDA wasn't successful and wish you all the best for your next one in cairns

    Mrs P - Hi, what do you do in your assessment cycle. This sounds like something I would be interested in. When I was talking about less eggs using combined Menopur and Goal F I was meaning compared to using either Gonal F alone or Menopur alone. I know a couple of ladies who got way less eggs using the combined approach. One of them normally gets 20-30 on Gonal F alone or Menopur alone but only got 7 using the combined approach. She did get pregnant from those 7 though and is convinced that the combination produced much better quality eggs. Her combination was different to WDA's though, in that both were given each day eg: 225 gonal f, 85 menapur.

    AFM - the AACEP cycle and the use of alternating Gonal F and Menopur has been a disaster for me. As expected, I only produced 3 follicles, half of what we normally get and of these only 2 were able to be collected at pick up yesterday. WDA spoke to my DH and told him they don't look like good quality either so we aren't expecting good news today. In all 18 cycles that we have done we ave never been told that my eggs look like poor quality, in fact it has always been the opposite. I asked about whether my overdose of Lucrin on the last day could have messed things up be he didn't think so. I am not so sure though as obviously Lucrin suppresses the ovaries and if they are too suppressed I imagine they wouldn't respond too well to the stimulation drugs. On top of this my lining which was 8.7 on Friday dropped to 6.9 yesterday, despite all the supplements and drinking of rasberry leaf tea and pomengranate juice so not sure wat is going on there. It as been over 18 months since we cycled and in that time my AMH has dropped by more than 1/2 to 6. On top of this my left ovary appears to not be getting correct blood flow anymore so I guess we have some difficult decisions to make about whether we continue or wether we stop. I would definitely be interested in doing an assessment cycle though if that could help us make some informed decisions regarding where to from here.
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    Hi Domiffy, Mrs P and Hope 06.........

    Sorry about the delay posting, but I've been sick these last couple of days. I don't know if it's coming off the drugs (oops, no-one told me about weaning myself off the Prednisone, so went cold turkey Dom) or just a coincidence, but either way, have been knocked for a 6!!! Am feeling better today, obviously......

    As predicted, it was a BFN, mind you, I had to chase the results up Sun morn after no-one bothered to call me on Sat!!!! Apparently, there was a "communication mix-up" and the scientist at the lab didn't think I wanted a ph call as I already knew I was expecting a BFN anyway. "If that was the case" I replied back to the lady at QFG Pathology on Sunday morning "Why would I write my ph number on the pathology request form??" as expected, I got no answer. Was really pi$$ed off as you can imagine. Haven't heard FA from Nurse Kate or anyone else from WDA's office either....Whatev's!!! Am feeling moody today (as if you all couldn't tell!!!) and am still waiting on AF to make an appearance.

    Am still giving DP time to get his head around my desire to cycle again. Don't want to push for an answer too soon. Is better just to give him some time to think about things and come around to my way of thinking eventually!!! LOFL!!! I'm pretty sure he will....and anyhoo, want to give my body a 2 week hiatus before I start with all the supplements again (though in saying that, am currently still taking the folic acid, baby aspirin, DHEA and Melatonin) Other than that, I'm feeling fine for the most part. I occasionally have the odd tear or two spring up into my eyes and threaten to spill over, but I've managed to keep them at bay. Cried enough last week in the lead-up to BT. Just want to focus on the future now.

    Hope06.......Am sorry to hear that you only got 2 eggs at EPU. How disappointing for you and DH. Am keeping my that they both fertilise and are winner's for you both. God knows, we need one on this thread!!!! Will be following along love to see how you get on. Here's some (bl o o dy babydust icon won't post FFS!!!) Babydust to get you started!! Thanks for your kind words/wishes too.

    Mrs P.......Thanks again for your kind words/wishes as well. Hope the assessment cycle goes well for you and and who knows, you could get lucky this month anyhoo??? for you love!!!! I agree, much better to cycle when you're 100% fighting fit!!! I'll be waiting and watching!!!

    Domiffy love.......Thanks for everything girl.... Although I question if it's worth going on after 4 failures in a row, I know deep down inside that I will as those 2 vial's of DP's frozen sperm are 2 more chances to make our dream come true. So, once DP is onboard, its onwards and upwards for me!!! You'll be leading the way again this time, but I'll be sailing close behind, don't you worry love!!!

    Ok my lovelies, must go....take care and (why are some icon's working and other's not??? Is really frigging annoying!!!) Babydust to us all!!!!!
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    Hi Domiffy, Mrs P and Hope06........

    How's everyone going??? Any news yet Hope?? Just a quick post to let you all know that AF arrived first thing when I woke up this morning. Is the same as any other month, no worse, no better.

    Domiffy...Have looked into the fresh Royal Jelly and I can get a 100g jar for $50 that will be sent in an overnight refrigerated truck. Will that be too much for the next 4-5 months I wonder?? Plus, I need to check out how much they charge for delivery. Mind you, looking back at your post, $50 for 100g's seems like a bit of a rip-off....Will keep looking love...LOL

    Had a talk about cycling again with DP last night and when I showed him the spreadsheet of the budget I'd worked out for the next 4-5 months, he gave me his ok for us to go again Yay!!!! (plus it helped that I was able to show him there would be x-amount of $ left each f/night for him to spend on whatever he chooses) So, will be off at the end of the week to stock-up on all the supplements. Decided I'll start taking all of them from the 1st of July. Will also have to call WDA's rooms and make an appointment in Oct sometime which will be the appoint to get the ball rolling again. Still haven't heard anything from anyone over there . I wonder if he'll want me to go back for a follow-up appointment??? I know he's going on holiday soon.

    Ok, am out of here. Take care everyone........ to us all!!!!
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